Tessa Forshaw and Rich Braden: "Innovation-ish" and why most innovation doesn’t have to be a moonshot

Design Better46mApril 16, 2026

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In this episode of Design Better, hosts Eli Woolery and Aaron Walter welcome Tessa Forshaw, a cognitive scientist, and Rich Braden, a design strategist, to discuss their book 'Innovation-ish'—a framework that challenges the myth of innovation as a rare, moonshot endeavor reserved for geniuses in Silicon Valley. Instead, they argue that innovation is accessible to anyone through small, iterative actions they call 'innovation-ish.' Drawing on neuroscience and learning science, they explore how 'innovation hesitation'—a subconscious amygdala response to uncertainty—holds people back, especially in education and workplace cultures that prioritize conformity over creativity. The conversation critiques traditional design thinking for becoming overly rigid and process-driven, advocating instead for a flexible, mindset-based approach where teams adopt specific mental states (like empathy or generativity) as needed, rather than following a fixed sequence. They emphasize metacognition—the practice of thinking about one’s own thinking—as a critical skill for real-world innovation, especially in messy, dynamic environments. The episode also highlights how everyday innovations, like logistics for massive construction projects or simple prototyping with paper, can be just as transformative as grand moonshots. Finally, they reflect on how AI can serve as a creative enabler when used as a tool for experimentation rather than a solution provider.

Key Takeaways
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Innovation doesn't require a moonshot—small, iterative 'innovation-ish' actions are powerful and accessible to everyone.

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Innovation hesitation, driven by fear of judgment and amygdala-driven caution, is a natural but harmful barrier to creativity.

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Metacognition—reflecting on your thinking in real time during work—is more valuable than post-hoc retrospectives for driving real innovation.

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Design thinking’s value lies in its principles, not rigid processes; teams should adopt mindsets flexibly rather than follow a one-size-fits-all map.

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AI is a powerful tool for rapid prototyping and idea expression, but only when used as a collaborator, not a replacement for human insight.

Chapters
0:00
10 min

Debunking the Myth of the Innovation Hero

There is no certificate, degree or special set of tools that you get the key to that unlocks innovation for you. Anyone can do it bringing whatever they already have, all of their assets to that learning experience.

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10:00
10 min

The Psychology of Innovation Hesitation

Our amygdala is on hijack and the little almond shape in our brain is sending all of these signals to our body to say, there's a bear that's about to eat you.

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20:00
10 min

Beyond Design Thinking: From Process to Principles

A map of New York City doesn't work for you in Yosemite National Park. And your context is different. The environment is different. The landmarks are different.

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30:00
10 min

The Power of Metacognition in Real-World Innovation

One of the insights that I'm really starting to see is how metacognition... happens in these messy middle moments in the middle of doing something.

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40:00
10 min

Roof Shots, Moonshots, and the Value of Everyday Innovation

Rich Braden introduces the concept of 'roof shots'—small, essential innovations that enable larger projects (like construction logistics for a 500-meter skyscraper). He argues that most innovation happens at this scale, not in grand moonshots, and that organizations should value incremental progress.

High-Impact Quotes
There is no certificate, degree or special set of tools that you get the key to that unlocks innovation for you. Anyone can do it bringing whatever they already have, all of their assets to that learning experience.
Eli Woolery0:02
Viral: 90.0
Our amygdala is on hijack and the little almond shape in our brain is sending all of these signals to our body to say, there's a bear that's about to eat you.
Tessa Forshaw29:08
Viral: 85.0
There isn't a bear that is going to eat you. It is okay.
Tessa Forshaw30:09
Viral: 82.0
Speakers

Hosts

Eli WooleryAaron Walter

Guests

Tessa ForshawRich Braden
Topics Discussed
innovation hesitation95%metacognition90%design thinking critique85%small innovations80%creative confidence75%AI as creative tool70%workplace culture and creativity65%education and creativity60%
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Neom

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