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In this episode of Democracy Now!, host Amy Goodman speaks with Adrian Fontes, Arizona's elected Secretary of State, about the Trump administration's recent executive order targeting mail-in voting. Fontes strongly condemns the order as unconstitutional, arguing it unlawfully centralizes control over elections—powers explicitly reserved to state legislatures and Congress under the U.S. Constitution. He emphasizes that Arizona’s mail-in voting system, established in the 1990s by Republican lawmakers, is secure, reliable, and widely supported by voters, including elderly citizens who benefit from its accessibility. Fontes also addresses the false claims of election fraud from the 2020 election, citing multiple independent investigations—including by the Arizona legislature, Cyber Ninjas, and the state attorney general—that found no evidence of wrongdoing. He calls out the president’s persistent lies as a greater threat to democracy than any foreign or domestic interference. Additionally, Fontes discusses resistance to the Department of Justice’s demand for sensitive voter data, including Social Security numbers and tribal identification, which he refuses to release due to privacy laws. The conversation closes with a birthday tribute to Fontes, who has been a steadfast defender of election integrity in Arizona.
Trump’s executive order to restrict mail-in voting is unconstitutional and violates the separation of powers between federal and state governments.
Arizona’s mail-in voting system, in place since the 1990s, is secure, widely used (over 80% of voters in 2024), and supported by voters across demographics.
Multiple independent investigations into the 2020 Arizona election found no evidence of fraud, despite false claims by Trump and allies.
The federal government’s demand for sensitive voter data—including Social Security numbers and tribal IDs—violates both state and federal privacy laws.
False election claims by political leaders are a greater threat to democracy than any actual election interference.
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Introduction to Trump's Executive Order on Mail-In Voting
Amy Goodman introduces the episode, highlighting the Democratic pushback against Trump's executive order that seeks to restrict mail-in voting and centralize control over election processes, violating constitutional principles.
Constitutional Challenge to Federal Overreach
“The president wants to select his own voters. It's not like our democracy should be released. We must open the doors to each of the states, in each of our states also, for truly listening to the voice of the people.”
Arizona's Secure Mail-In Voting System
“It's a system started by Republicans. In 1991, 1992 when they started it. And here in this state we have more than 30 years following this practice. The voters like to do it.”
Legal Resistance to Federal Voter Data Demands
“That type of confidential information is what we don't want to give and we're going to give. That's why we are demanding the Department of Justice.”
Confronting Election Fraud Myths and Protecting Democracy
“Those lies come from the United States. They do more harm to our democracy and our elections, more than any other threat we have right now.”
“Those lies come from the United States. They do more harm to our democracy and our elections, more than any other threat we have right now.”
“The president wants to select his own voters. It's not like our democracy should be released. We must open the doors to each of the states, in each of our states also, for truly listening to the voice of the people.”
“Please, Mr. President, stop the lies.”
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Adrian Fontes
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Donald Trump
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Arizona
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2020 U.S. Presidential Election
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U.S. Department of Justice
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Maricopa County
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Pam Bondi
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U.S. Constitution
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Arizona Legislature
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Cyber Ninjas
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