BONUS: Using Recess to Build Social Skills and Help Students Discover their Leadership Potential (with Elizabeth Cushing)g

De Facto Leaders1h 0mMay 6, 2026

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In this bonus episode of the DeFacto Leaders Podcast, host Dr. Karen interviews Elizabeth Cushing, CEO of Playworks, a national nonprofit dedicated to using structured play to build social, emotional, and leadership skills in children. The conversation centers on reimagining recess not as an afterthought or punishment, but as a vital, intentional part of the school day that fosters belonging, reduces chronic absenteeism, and supports executive functioning. Cushing shares how Playworks partners with schools to train staff, implement inclusive game practices like rock-paper-scissors for conflict resolution, and empower older students as peer coaches—transforming recess into a space where leadership emerges naturally. The episode highlights research showing Playworks schools have lower absenteeism and teachers gain an average of 25 minutes of instructional time daily due to fewer behavioral disruptions. Dr. Karen emphasizes the importance of moving beyond isolated social skills groups by embedding learning into real-world contexts like recess, where kids can practice skills in authentic, low-pressure environments. The episode also explores how play serves as a powerful reset between academic tasks, strengthens transitions, and helps neurodivergent and anxious students feel included. Cushing shares surprising insights, such as how junior coaches often transform disruptive students into engaged leaders, and how simple structures like clear rules and adult participation create safer, more joyful recess experiences. Resources like the free game guide, Recess Lab’s observation tool, and Playworks’ professional development programs are highlighted as accessible tools for educators. Ultimately, the episode presents recess as a 'solution hiding in plain sight'—a low-cost, high-impact strategy that supports academic success, emotional well-being, and school culture through the universal language of play.

Key Takeaways
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Recess should be treated as an intentional, structured part of the school day—not an afterthought or punishment.

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Clear, consistent game rules and practices like rock-paper-scissors for conflict resolution reduce disruptions and build emotional regulation.

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Training older students as peer coaches fosters leadership, reduces behavioral issues, and increases student engagement and belonging.

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Playworks schools show measurable reductions in chronic absenteeism and teachers gain an average of 25 minutes of instructional time per day.

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Simple, playful transitions (e.g., silent penguins) can help students regulate before and after recess.

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Chapters
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10 min

Reimagining Recess as a Core School Practice

Recess is not an extra. It's not a reward. It's a core part of the school day where kids get to connect, practice life skills, and develop leadership.

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10 min

Elizabeth Cushing’s Journey and Playworks’ Mission

Elizabeth Cushing shares her 21-year journey with Playworks, from being a mom drawn to the mission of ensuring every child gets to play, to leading the organization nationally. She details how Playworks partners with schools and community organizations to create inclusive, joyful, and structured play environments.

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20 min

How Playworks Builds Inclusive and Safe Play

When kids know the rules, they’re more likely to stay in the game. They don’t care about the rule—they care about being included.

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20 min

Play as a Tool for Executive Functioning and Social Skills

Kids don’t transfer social skills from a lesson to real life because real interactions aren’t academic. They need practice in authentic, unstructured settings.

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1:00:00
20 min

Peer Coaching and Leadership Development

Since we put Karen on the junior coach squad, she’s turning in her homework, giving high fives, and is happy to be at school. It’s like she didn’t realize her potential was there all along.

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High-Impact Quotes
Since we put Karen on the junior coach squad, she’s turning in her homework, giving high fives, and is happy to be at school. It’s like she didn’t realize her potential was there all along.
Elizabeth Cushing57:30
Viral: 92.0
Kids don’t transfer social skills from a lesson to real life because real interactions aren’t academic. They need practice in authentic, unstructured settings.
Dr. Karen45:00
Viral: 90.0
When kids know the rules, they’re more likely to stay in the game. They don’t care about the rule—they care about being included.
Elizabeth Cushing22:30
Viral: 88.0
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Dr. Karen

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Elizabeth Cushing
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