חולין טו 5786
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This episode of Daf Yomi: The 35 Minute Daf explores a complex Talmudic discussion on the permissibility of shechitah (ritual slaughter) performed on Shabbos or Yom Kippur. The central question revolves around whether such a shechitah is kosher despite being forbidden, and whether the meat can be eaten on the same day. The Gemara examines the opinions of various sages, particularly Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Meir, regarding the status of meat slaughtered on Shabbos inadvertently (b'shogeg) versus intentionally (b'mezid). The discussion delves into the concept of muktzah (items set aside for Shabbos), the distinction between cooking and shechitah, and the halachic implications of performing a mitzvah or aveirah on Shabbos. A key moment involves Rav silencing a student who cited Rabbi Meir’s lenient view, highlighting the tension between private and public halachic opinions. The episode also examines the validity of using various instruments for shechitah, including sickles, flint, reeds, and even teeth, with a focus on whether the instrument is detached or attached to its source. The analysis concludes with a nuanced debate about the original form of the object and whether it was inherently attached or only later affixed. The episode emphasizes the importance of context in halachic rulings, the distinction between chadchila (ideal) and bedieved (after the fact), and the role of rabbinic authority in shaping public understanding. It underscores the idea that even when an act is technically valid, there may be halachic restrictions on benefiting from it immediately, especially when it involves a transgression. The discussion culminates in a deep exploration of the principle that an object’s original state—whether naturally attached or artificially affixed—determines its halachic status in shechitah. The host concludes by setting up the next day’s daf, promising to continue the analysis on the following Shabbos.
Shechitah on Shabbos or Yom Kippur is kosher even if done b'mezid, but the meat cannot be eaten that day due to the aveirah.
Rabbi Yehuda holds that even b'shogeg shechitah on Shabbos is forbidden to eat that day, while Rabbi Meir permits it.
The key distinction lies in whether the act was done for a sick person (cholim), which permits shechitah but still restricts eating for healthy individuals.
Instruments used for shechitah must be detached from their source; if originally attached (like a reed or rock), they are invalid even bedieved.
The original form of an object (natural vs. artificial attachment) determines its halachic permissibility in shechitah.
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Shechitah on Shabbos: Kosher but Inedible
The episode begins with a discussion of the Mishnah stating that shechitah on Shabbos or Yom Kippur is kosher, even if done intentionally, though it incurs the penalty of misa. The Gemara questions why the meat cannot be eaten that day, exploring whether it's due to muktzah or a halachic prohibition.
Rabbi Yehuda vs. Rabbi Meir: The Core Dispute
“If you did it b'shoge, you can't eat it that day because you're having anov from what was an avera.”
Rav's Silence: Public vs. Private Halacha
“He says he can go like her mayor. Except publicly he ponds like her beauty. We should be more mahmur.”
The Sick Person Exception: When Shechitah is Permitted
“For a sick person, you're allowed to shek for him. But also the bari, you can't give it to a healthy person.”
Instruments for Shechitah: Detached vs. Attached
“If it was originally attached to the ground, in other words, it's in its original form where it's attached to the ground, let's say a reed, which has always been attached, then it's no good, even bedieved.”
“He says he can go like her mayor. Except publicly he ponds like her beauty. We should be more mahmur.”
“If it was originally attached to the ground, in other words, it's in its original form where it's attached to the ground, let's say a reed, which has always been attached, then it's no good, even bedieved.”
“If you did it b'shoge, you can't eat it that day because you're having anov from what was an avera.”
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Rabbi Yehuda
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Shechitah
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Rabbi Meir
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Muktzah
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Rav
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Yom Kippur
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Mishnah
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Bedieved
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Gemara
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