מנחות צ 5779
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This episode of Daf Yomi: The 35 Minute Daf explores intricate halachic discussions from the Talmudic tractate, focusing on the sanctity of offerings and the status of overflow from sacred measures. The discussion centers on whether overflow from liquid measures (Midas Halach) is considered holy (Kodesh) versus dry measures (Midas Yovish), with three main opinions: Rabbi Kiva, who argues the liquid measure itself is holy; Rabbi Yossi, who uses a physics-based explanation involving the movement of liquid; and a third view rooted in social concern (gezeirah) that overflow from liquids is holy to prevent people from thinking that sanctity can be removed by transferring it outside the vessel. The episode also delves into the practical use of leftover nesachim (libations), such as wine or oil, which are used to purchase additional olos (burnt offerings) to keep the priests occupied and maintain ritual continuity. A key theme is the principle that once a sacred transaction is finalized in the context of the Temple service (Hegdash), it cannot be undone—even if market prices change—unlike ordinary commercial deals, highlighting the unique sanctity of Temple obligations. The episode concludes with a discussion on the inclusion of birds in the category of offerings, resolving a machlokes (dispute) between Rabbi Yonason and Rabbi Yosi regarding whether 'menabakar o menatzon' implies a choice between two options or requires both, using grammatical and contextual analysis from multiple biblical passages.
Overflow from liquid measures (Midas Halach) is holy because it may have once been inside the vessel, while dry measure overflow is not, due to physics and lack of internal contact.
The sanctity of Temple offerings (Hegdash) is irreversible once acquired—unlike regular business deals, even if market prices change, the obligation stands.
Leftover nesachim (libations) are not consumed but used to purchase additional olos to keep the Kohanim busy and maintain ritual continuity.
Birds are excluded from certain offerings because the term 'Zevach' implies animal slaughter, not pinching (nimlak), which applies to birds.
The Torah's use of 'menabakar o menatzon' implies a choice, not a requirement to bring both, based on grammatical analysis and contextual clues from other verses.
The Nature of Sacred Measures: Liquid vs. Dry Overflow
“It's very simple. When you pour something into a kli, what happens? It gets liquid neck heart. It's stirred up. So the first drop that I put into a cup or a measuring cup, whatever, that might wind up on top at the end.”
The Sanctity of Overflow: Halachic Rationale and Practical Implications
The discussion deepens into why liquid overflow is holy even if it never entered the vessel. The episode explores the idea that people might mistakenly believe sanctity can be removed by transferring it outside, leading to a gezeirah (rabbinic decree) to prevent such misunderstanding.
Using Leftover Nesachim: From Waste to Worship
“So the Kohanim gains something out of keeping busy because when they use these extra surplus funds for bringing extra olos on the Mizbech, they get to keep the hide and get new jackets.”
The Unbreakable Deal: Hegdash vs. Commoner Transactions
“Hegdys always wins either way. Either way. Hegdash wins either way, as we're going to say now.”
Birds and Offerings: Resolving the Machlokes on 'Menabakar O Menatzon'
The episode concludes with a linguistic analysis of the phrase 'menabakar o menatzon' in the Torah. The discussion resolves whether it implies a choice or a requirement to bring both, using grammatical clues and cross-referencing other biblical passages.
“It's very simple. When you pour something into a kli, what happens? It gets liquid neck heart. It's stirred up. So the first drop that I put into a cup or a measuring cup, whatever, that might wind up on top at the end.”
“So the Kohanim gains something out of keeping busy because when they use these extra surplus funds for bringing extra olos on the Mizbech, they get to keep the hide and get new jackets.”
“Hegdys always wins either way. Either way. Hegdash wins either way, as we're going to say now.”
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