Hypothetical Equestrian Punctuality with McKittrick Simmons
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In this deeply personal and reflective episode of Dadville, Dave Barnes and John McLaughlin welcome McKittrick Simmons for a conversation that spans from playful nicknames to profound grief, friendship, and identity. The episode opens with humor around McKittrick’s famously mispronounced name and evolves into a moving exploration of his father’s sudden death at age 41 when McKittrick was just 12—a trauma that shaped his entire life. He shares how that loss led him to a deeper relationship with God, the importance of male mentorship, and the transformative power of intentional, vulnerable friendships. The conversation delves into the 'Valley' house in Atlanta, where McKittrick lived with a group of men who modeled radical honesty and emotional intimacy, a model that profoundly influenced John McLaughlin’s own friendships. The episode culminates in a powerful reflection on aging, authenticity, and the 'age of imitation' ending at 50. McKittrick shares his desire to stop performing and finally become himself—fully, vulnerably, and authentically—while embracing the mystery of being known by God and others. The emotional core is the idea that true connection, whether through friendship, fatherhood, or faith, is not about perfection but about being seen, loved, and witnessed in our brokenness.
Grief at a young age can be a catalyst for spiritual depth and wisdom, not just pain.
Intentional male friendship—rooted in vulnerability and honesty—can be life-changing and healing.
The 'age of imitation' ends around 50; the real work begins in becoming your authentic self.
Vulnerability is not weakness—it’s the foundation of deep, lasting connection.
We are not here for our own glory, but because God wanted to love us into existence.
The Name That Demands a Processional
“Ladies and gentlemen, the Baldwino.”
The Unbearable Lightness of Being a 12-Year-Old Orphan
“I was so mad. Just as a 12-year-old, dad was like the best. Why would you take one of the good ones?”
The Valley: A School of Vulnerable Friendship
“I want to be the guy that people can go, hey, can we have a hard conversation about something? And they go, absolutely.”
The Age of Imitation Is Over
“I feel more tired than ever of being myself. But I’m also ready to be myself.”
The Universe Was Made So We Could See It
The conversation turns to wonder, eternity, and the deep joy of being human. McKittrick shares his belief that God made the universe so we could see it—and that relationships, music, and love are eternal. He dreams of a kingdom where we’ll be reconciled with our enemies and still know each other.
“I love you. You alone. This is not just your community. This is to you.”
“We are here because the Lord decided he wanted you to be here.”
“The only thought I know that could connect with that puzzle piece is the idea that we are all here. I think the scripture is not of a husband's will or there's a new... It's not because your parents decided to have kids. You are here because the Lord decided he wanted you to be here.”
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McKittrick Simmons
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Dave Barnes
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John McLaughlin
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Meredith Simmons
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Greg Simmons
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Baldwin
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The Valley
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Andrew Kintz
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Richard Rohr
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Ravi Zacharias
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