HEIDI PERKS In Person With Paul

Crime Time FM50mApril 7, 2026

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In this episode of Crime Time FM, host Paul Burke interviews bestselling psychological thriller author Heidi Perks about her latest novel, *It Ends Here*, her journey from corporate marketing to full-time writing, and the creative process behind her work. Perks shares how a life-changing redundancy in 2012 led her to pursue her childhood dream of authorship, despite a five-year struggle with rejections and self-doubt. She recounts writing her first novel in a year, self-publishing a rejected manuscript to reclaim agency, and eventually landing a deal with Penguin Random House after persistent effort and mentorship from her agent. The conversation turns to *It Ends Here*, a locked-room mystery told entirely from the perspectives of loved ones outside a hostage situation in a coastal cafe on the Isle of Wight. Perks reveals the novel’s core inspiration—doubt in the people we love—driven by a true crime podcast about the Yorkshire Ripper. She discusses her research with a detective friend, the challenge of writing multiple diverse characters, and the emotional weight of exploring how trauma ripples through families. She also reflects on her writing process, the importance of setting (especially the south coast of England), and her upcoming novel set in Cornwall. The episode closes with Perks recommending works by Harlan Coben, Karen Slaughter, and Taylor Jenkins Reid.

Key Takeaways
1

Self-belief and persistence are essential in writing—Perks faced 25 rejections before her breakthrough.

2

The best stories often begin with a relationship or emotional dilemma, not a plot.

3

Writing from the outside perspective of a crisis (rather than inside the locked room) creates unique suspense and emotional depth.

4

Self-publishing can be empowering and a way to reclaim control during periods of rejection.

5

Empathy and real-life experience—especially around relationships and human psychology—are central to crafting believable characters.

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Chapters
0:00
7 min

Heidi Perks: From Marketing to Bestselling Author

Paul Burke introduces Heidi Perks, discussing her journey from a 15-year marketing career to becoming a bestselling psychological thriller writer after taking redundancy in 2012. She shares her early passion for writing and the pivotal moment that led her to commit to authorship.

6:40
10 min

The Long Road to Publication: Rejection, Self-Publishing, and Breakthrough

I knew there was nothing else I wanted to do. This is what I love. And so I have to keep going.

Highlight
16:40
13 min

Inside 'It Ends Here': A Novel Driven by Doubt and Relationships

Could you ever look at your closest person to you and say, 100% I know you wouldn't do something like that?

Highlight
30:00
17 min

The Power of Perspective: Telling a Story from the Outside

It wasn't until I started developing the story that I realized that was how it was going to become... it was always going to be about the people that weren't involved.

Highlight
46:40
17 min

Research, Realism, and the Role of the Detective

Perks details her collaboration with a real-life detective to ensure authenticity in the police response and crisis management. She emphasizes the importance of realism in fiction, even when stretching plausibility for dramatic effect.

High-Impact Quotes
Could you ever look at your closest person to you and say, 100% I know you wouldn't do something like that?
Heidi Perks22:49
Viral: 90.0
I knew there was nothing else I wanted to do. This is what I love. And so I have to keep going.
Heidi Perks7:05
Viral: 85.0
It wasn't until I started developing the story that I realized that was how it was going to become... it was always going to be about the people that weren't involved.
Heidi Perks24:49
Viral: 80.0
Speakers

Host

Paul Burke

Guest

Heidi Perks
Topics Discussed
Author Journey and Persistence95%Psychological Thriller Writing90%Relationships and Human Psychology88%Narrative Perspective and Structure85%Themes of Secrets and Unresolved Trauma82%Self-Publishing and Creative Control80%Setting as Character78%Research and Realism in Fiction75%
People & Brands

Heidi Perks

person

120xPositive

Paul Burke

person

80xPositive

It Ends Here

book

45xPositive

Now You See Her

book

15xPositive

South Coast of England

place

12xPositive

Isle of Wight

place

10xNeutral

COVID-19

other

6xNeutral

Penguin Random House

organization

5xPositive

Cornwall

place

5xPositive

Nell

person

4xPositive

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