HEIDI PERKS In Person With Paul
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In this episode of Crime Time FM, host Paul Burke interviews bestselling psychological thriller author Heidi Perks about her latest novel, *It Ends Here*, her journey from corporate marketing to full-time writing, and the creative process behind her work. Perks shares how a life-changing redundancy in 2012 led her to pursue her childhood dream of authorship, despite a five-year struggle with rejections and self-doubt. She recounts writing her first novel in a year, self-publishing a rejected manuscript to reclaim agency, and eventually landing a deal with Penguin Random House after persistent effort and mentorship from her agent. The conversation turns to *It Ends Here*, a locked-room mystery told entirely from the perspectives of loved ones outside a hostage situation in a coastal cafe on the Isle of Wight. Perks reveals the novel’s core inspiration—doubt in the people we love—driven by a true crime podcast about the Yorkshire Ripper. She discusses her research with a detective friend, the challenge of writing multiple diverse characters, and the emotional weight of exploring how trauma ripples through families. She also reflects on her writing process, the importance of setting (especially the south coast of England), and her upcoming novel set in Cornwall. The episode closes with Perks recommending works by Harlan Coben, Karen Slaughter, and Taylor Jenkins Reid.
Self-belief and persistence are essential in writing—Perks faced 25 rejections before her breakthrough.
The best stories often begin with a relationship or emotional dilemma, not a plot.
Writing from the outside perspective of a crisis (rather than inside the locked room) creates unique suspense and emotional depth.
Self-publishing can be empowering and a way to reclaim control during periods of rejection.
Empathy and real-life experience—especially around relationships and human psychology—are central to crafting believable characters.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Heidi Perks: From Marketing to Bestselling Author
Paul Burke introduces Heidi Perks, discussing her journey from a 15-year marketing career to becoming a bestselling psychological thriller writer after taking redundancy in 2012. She shares her early passion for writing and the pivotal moment that led her to commit to authorship.
The Long Road to Publication: Rejection, Self-Publishing, and Breakthrough
“I knew there was nothing else I wanted to do. This is what I love. And so I have to keep going.”
Inside 'It Ends Here': A Novel Driven by Doubt and Relationships
“Could you ever look at your closest person to you and say, 100% I know you wouldn't do something like that?”
The Power of Perspective: Telling a Story from the Outside
“It wasn't until I started developing the story that I realized that was how it was going to become... it was always going to be about the people that weren't involved.”
Research, Realism, and the Role of the Detective
Perks details her collaboration with a real-life detective to ensure authenticity in the police response and crisis management. She emphasizes the importance of realism in fiction, even when stretching plausibility for dramatic effect.
“Could you ever look at your closest person to you and say, 100% I know you wouldn't do something like that?”
“I knew there was nothing else I wanted to do. This is what I love. And so I have to keep going.”
“It wasn't until I started developing the story that I realized that was how it was going to become... it was always going to be about the people that weren't involved.”
Host
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Heidi Perks
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Paul Burke
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It Ends Here
book
Now You See Her
book
South Coast of England
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Isle of Wight
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COVID-19
other
Penguin Random House
organization
Cornwall
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Nell
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