318. When You're Capable in English… But You Don’t Trust Yourself (A Conversation with Joely Pullen)

In this first episode of a new conversational format, host Anna welcomes Joely Pullen, co-founder of Savvy English, for an unscripted discussion on building confidence in English communication. They explore the common yet often overlooked challenge of being competent in English but lacking self-trust—what Anna and Joely describe as a deep-rooted psychological barrier. Using the real-life transformation of Marta, a high-achieving founder and activist from Valencia, they illustrate how confidence isn't about language perfection but about accumulating evidence through small, intentional challenges. Joely shares her approach of using 'micro challenges'—like sending voice messages on public trains or asking casual questions in English—to gradually rewire fear into capability. The episode emphasizes that confidence grows not from eliminating fear, but from acting despite it, with the mantra 'feel the fear and do it anyway.' By reframing discomfort as a growth catalyst, Marta evolved from terrified to joyful, even presenting her book in New York and leading international team meetings in English. The conversation closes with a powerful reminder: avoiding discomfort may feel safe, but it deprives you of joy and growth.