Schwab Brings Crypto to 38M Users; North Korea 'Simply' to Blame for Recent DeFi Hacks

CoinDesk Podcast Network15mApril 24, 2026

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This episode of the CoinDesk Podcast Network's Policy Protocol explores two pivotal developments in the crypto space: Charles Schwab's expansion into crypto services, which now offers Bitcoin investment to its 38.5 million brokerage accounts, and a major DeFi hack attributed to North Korea, impacting protocols like Aave and CalpDAO through a bridge exploit on Layer Zero. The hosts, Renato Mariotti and Rebecca Reddick, discuss how Schwab’s move could normalize crypto for mainstream Americans, potentially shifting political sentiment on Capitol Hill and paving the way for more favorable regulation. In contrast, the DeFi hack underscores systemic vulnerabilities in cross-chain bridges and the need for stronger cybersecurity standards, especially as DeFi grows. Guest Ari Redboard, global head of policy at TRM Labs and former federal prosecutor, emphasizes a dual strategy: strengthening defensive cyber measures while aggressively pursuing offensive cyber operations and diplomatic pressure against state-sponsored actors like North Korea. He calls for U.S. regulators to provide clear rules for compliant innovation while intensifying enforcement against non-compliant offshore exchanges that facilitate illicit fund off-ramps. The episode also highlights a landmark legal battle in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals over whether prediction markets fall under CFTC jurisdiction, which could lead to a Supreme Court showdown and reshape the regulatory landscape for digital assets globally.

Key Takeaways
1

Charles Schwab’s entry into crypto brings 38.5 million traditional investors into the ecosystem, potentially accelerating mainstream adoption and influencing future crypto regulation.

2

The recent DeFi hack, linked to North Korea, exploited a bridge vulnerability via compromised RPC nodes—not flawed code—highlighting the need for robust cybersecurity standards in DeFi infrastructure.

3

Ari Redboard advocates for a dual national security strategy: combining offensive cyber operations with diplomatic pressure and enforcement against non-compliant offshore exchanges.

4

Regulatory clarity is essential to encourage innovation within the U.S. while enabling targeted enforcement against illicit actors and laundering platforms.

5

The Ninth Circuit’s upcoming decision on prediction markets could create a circuit split, potentially leading to a Supreme Court review and defining the legal status of digital prediction tools globally.

Chapters
0:00
2 min

North Korea Blamed for DeFi Hack

When I really think about who's to blame for this, it's simply North Korea.

Highlight
2:00
4 min

Schwab’s Crypto Expansion: A Game Changer

It is really amazing. And you know, one of the things we've talked about a lot in crypto is we want to bring millions on chain and the one entity that is seemingly doing it... is a TradFi player.

Highlight
6:00
4 min

DeFi Vulnerabilities and the Bridge Exploit

A detailed breakdown of how the hack occurred via a compromised RPC node in Layer Zero’s bridge, leading to the theft of RSE tokens used as collateral on Aave, revealing systemic risks in composability.

10:00
4 min

Policy Response: From Defense to Offense

Let's go after them. Let's go after offensive cyber. Let's go take those funds back.

Highlight
14:00
1 min

Prediction Markets and the Road to the Supreme Court

The episode concludes with a preview of the Ninth Circuit’s upcoming decision on the CFTC’s jurisdiction over prediction markets, which could trigger a circuit split and a potential Supreme Court review.

High-Impact Quotes
Let's go after them. Let's go after offensive cyber. Let's go take those funds back.
Ari Redboard6:28
Viral: 90.0
When I really think about who's to blame for this, it's simply North Korea.
Rebecca Reddick0:00
Viral: 85.0
The riskiest places are the non-compliant overseas exchanges.
Ari Redboard9:44
Viral: 80.0
Speakers

Hosts

Renato MariottiRebecca Reddick

Guest

Ari Redboard
Topics Discussed
Mainstream Crypto Adoption90%State-Sponsored Cybercrime88%National Security and Cyber Strategy87%DeFi Security and Infrastructure85%Regulatory Clarity and Innovation82%Cross-Chain Bridge Vulnerabilities80%Offshore Illicit Finance78%Prediction Market Regulation75%
People & Brands

North Korea

place

12xNegative

Rebecca Reddick

person

10xNeutral

Renato Mariotti

person

10xNeutral

Charles Schwab

organization

6xPositive

TRM Labs

organization

5xPositive

Aave

other

5xNeutral

United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit

other

5xNeutral

Layer Zero

other

4xNeutral

CFTC

other

4xNeutral

Beacon Network

other

3xPositive

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