Professor Steve Keen #1362

Coffee and a Mike1h 35mApril 21, 2026

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In this incisive episode of Coffee and a Mic, host Mike engages Professor Steve Keen, the world's first rebel economist and predictor of the 2008 financial crisis, in a wide-ranging discussion on global economic systems, geopolitical tensions, and the future of civilization. Keen offers a compelling defense of China’s state-led, innovation-driven model, contrasting it with the dysfunction of Western political and economic institutions. He argues that China’s blend of state infrastructure planning and competitive private enterprise has created a resilient, rapidly developing society—evident in its high-speed rail, urban planning, and grassroots innovation—while criticizing the U.S. for abandoning manufacturing, succumbing to financialization, and enabling a narcissistic, unstable leadership under Donald Trump. Keen warns that the current U.S. actions in the Middle East constitute a dangerous 'mafia shakedown' and pump-and-dump scheme, risking global famine, economic collapse, and nuclear war. He calls for a radical overhaul of democratic systems, advocating for sortition, public funding of elections, and expert-driven governance. On technology, Keen sees the AI boom as a classic Schumpeterian bubble that will crash but leave behind transformative tools, urging a societal shift toward universal basic income and post-work culture. He concludes with a sobering vision: the end of the American empire is inevitable, but only if humanity can survive the nuclear and ecological threats it now faces.

Key Takeaways
1

China’s success stems from a hybrid model: state-led infrastructure and long-term planning combined with fierce private-sector competition.

2

The U.S. political system is fundamentally broken, corrupted by money and narcissistic leaders, with no effective mechanism to remove a dangerous president.

3

The Middle East conflict is being weaponized by the U.S. as a pump-and-dump scheme, risking global food shortages and nuclear war.

4

AI and automation will eliminate many jobs, but society must transition to a post-work future with universal basic income to avoid chaos.

5

The U.S. has hollowed out its manufacturing and technical workforce, making it uncompetitive and vulnerable to global disruption.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

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2:00
8 min

China’s Model: Stability, Innovation, and Practical Governance

The Chinese Communist Party is a bit like a friendly big brother. If you go and storm the ramparts, you'll end up in jail. But if you basically accept they've set the environment for you, so long as you don't break the laws... you can be free to do pretty much what you want to do.

Highlight
10:00
10 min

The Myth of Comparative Advantage and the Collapse of Globalization

The whole argument in favour of comparative advantage has always been a con job. And one of the intriguing things... he realised moving a wine press from one province to another doesn't move production facilities from wine to cloth. He should have used the word industry.

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20:00
15 min

The U.S. as the 'Dark Empire': Imperialism, Narcissism, and the Middle East Crisis

It's a bloody mafia shakedown combined with a pump and dump scheme. Everything's open. Everything's great. Oil price can fall. Oh dear, we're going to bomb the hell out of them again. Oil prices are going to rise.

Highlight
35:00
15 min

The Imminent Collapse of the American Political System

You've got a system which is designed for a mad king from 300 years ago who couldn't do anything in an instant, whereas Trump could press a button and 10 minutes later they get you cities being fried all around the world.

Highlight
High-Impact Quotes
You've got a system which is designed for a mad king from 300 years ago who couldn't do anything in an instant, whereas Trump could press a button and 10 minutes later they get you cities being fried all around the world.
Steve Keen43:38
Viral: 95.0
The end of the American empire is inevitable, but only if humanity can survive the nuclear and ecological threats it now faces.
Steve Keen93:20
Viral: 92.0
It's a bloody mafia shakedown combined with a pump and dump scheme. Everything's open. Everything's great. Oil price can fall. Oh dear, we're going to bomb the hell out of them again. Oil prices are going to rise.
Steve Keen33:41
Viral: 90.0
Speakers

Host

Mike

Guest

Steve Keen
Topics Discussed
China's Economic Model95%End of the American Empire93%Global Food and Supply Chain Security92%U.S. Political Dysfunction90%Middle East Conflict and Geopolitics88%Post-Work Society and Universal Basic Income87%AI and Technological Bubbles85%Critique of Comparative Advantage80%
People & Brands

Steve Keen

person

120xPositive

United States

place

90xNegative

China

place

85xPositive

Donald Trump

person

65xNeutral

Middle East

place

50xNegative

Iran

place

40xNeutral

Mike

person

20xPositive

2008 Financial Crisis

other

15xNeutral

AI Bubble

other

12xNeutral

Universal Basic Income

other

10xPositive

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