Professor Steve Keen #1362
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In this incisive episode of Coffee and a Mic, host Mike engages Professor Steve Keen, the world's first rebel economist and predictor of the 2008 financial crisis, in a wide-ranging discussion on global economic systems, geopolitical tensions, and the future of civilization. Keen offers a compelling defense of China’s state-led, innovation-driven model, contrasting it with the dysfunction of Western political and economic institutions. He argues that China’s blend of state infrastructure planning and competitive private enterprise has created a resilient, rapidly developing society—evident in its high-speed rail, urban planning, and grassroots innovation—while criticizing the U.S. for abandoning manufacturing, succumbing to financialization, and enabling a narcissistic, unstable leadership under Donald Trump. Keen warns that the current U.S. actions in the Middle East constitute a dangerous 'mafia shakedown' and pump-and-dump scheme, risking global famine, economic collapse, and nuclear war. He calls for a radical overhaul of democratic systems, advocating for sortition, public funding of elections, and expert-driven governance. On technology, Keen sees the AI boom as a classic Schumpeterian bubble that will crash but leave behind transformative tools, urging a societal shift toward universal basic income and post-work culture. He concludes with a sobering vision: the end of the American empire is inevitable, but only if humanity can survive the nuclear and ecological threats it now faces.
China’s success stems from a hybrid model: state-led infrastructure and long-term planning combined with fierce private-sector competition.
The U.S. political system is fundamentally broken, corrupted by money and narcissistic leaders, with no effective mechanism to remove a dangerous president.
The Middle East conflict is being weaponized by the U.S. as a pump-and-dump scheme, risking global food shortages and nuclear war.
AI and automation will eliminate many jobs, but society must transition to a post-work future with universal basic income to avoid chaos.
The U.S. has hollowed out its manufacturing and technical workforce, making it uncompetitive and vulnerable to global disruption.
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China’s Model: Stability, Innovation, and Practical Governance
“The Chinese Communist Party is a bit like a friendly big brother. If you go and storm the ramparts, you'll end up in jail. But if you basically accept they've set the environment for you, so long as you don't break the laws... you can be free to do pretty much what you want to do.”
The Myth of Comparative Advantage and the Collapse of Globalization
“The whole argument in favour of comparative advantage has always been a con job. And one of the intriguing things... he realised moving a wine press from one province to another doesn't move production facilities from wine to cloth. He should have used the word industry.”
The U.S. as the 'Dark Empire': Imperialism, Narcissism, and the Middle East Crisis
“It's a bloody mafia shakedown combined with a pump and dump scheme. Everything's open. Everything's great. Oil price can fall. Oh dear, we're going to bomb the hell out of them again. Oil prices are going to rise.”
The Imminent Collapse of the American Political System
“You've got a system which is designed for a mad king from 300 years ago who couldn't do anything in an instant, whereas Trump could press a button and 10 minutes later they get you cities being fried all around the world.”
“You've got a system which is designed for a mad king from 300 years ago who couldn't do anything in an instant, whereas Trump could press a button and 10 minutes later they get you cities being fried all around the world.”
“The end of the American empire is inevitable, but only if humanity can survive the nuclear and ecological threats it now faces.”
“It's a bloody mafia shakedown combined with a pump and dump scheme. Everything's open. Everything's great. Oil price can fall. Oh dear, we're going to bomb the hell out of them again. Oil prices are going to rise.”
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Steve Keen
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United States
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China
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Donald Trump
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Middle East
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Iran
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Mike
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2008 Financial Crisis
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AI Bubble
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Universal Basic Income
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