284 - Staci Haines: Creating a World of “Power-With”

Coaches Rising1h 13mApril 15, 2026

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In this powerful episode of Coaches Rising, host Joel Brown engages in a deeply vulnerable and transformative conversation with Staci Haines, a pioneering somatic coach and author of 'The Politics of Trauma' and 'Healing Sex.' The discussion centers on the critical intersection of inner healing and outer social change, exploring how coaches and individuals can engage in meaningful activism without reinforcing polarization. Haines introduces the 'Outer Work Project,' a nonprofit initiative designed to bridge the gap between personal transformation and collective action by mobilizing 3.5% of the population—enough to shift societal systems—through volunteer engagement in aligned social change organizations. Drawing on somatic practices, intersectionality, and the concept of 'power-with' over 'power-over,' the conversation unpacks how trauma, class, race, and gender shape our inner and outer worlds. Both hosts reflect on their own resistances, spiritual bypassing, and the need for embodied discernment, compassion, and long-term vision. They emphasize that true transformation requires not only inner work but also courageous, compassionate, and sustained engagement with the world, grounded in a shared longing for a regenerative, equitable future. The episode concludes with a call to action: to move from 'I' to 'we,' from healing to collective responsibility, and from fear to embodied hope. Key takeaways include: 1) Inner work is not a retreat from the world but a foundation for effective, non-polarizing outer action; 2) The 'Outer Work Project' offers a structured, somatically grounded pathway to engage in social change; 3) 'Power-with' is a radical, life-affirming alternative to power-over, rooted in mutual dignity and interdependence; 4) Somatic practices help us hold complexity, regulate our nervous systems, and respond from vision rather than reactivity; 5) We must cultivate the capacity to listen deeply, even when triggered, and avoid othering; 6) Vision and longing—especially for future generations—must guide our actions; 7) Small, consistent commitments (5–20 hours/month) can scale into transformative movements; 8) The current era of societal 'perturbation' is not a crisis but an opportunity for second-order transformation.

Key Takeaways
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Inner healing is essential preparation for non-polarizing, effective outer action.

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The 'Outer Work Project' mobilizes 3.5% of the population through volunteer engagement in aligned social change organizations.

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'Power-with' is a vision of collective well-being where no group must be on top.

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Somatic practices help us hold complexity, regulate our nervous systems, and respond from vision, not reactivity.

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We must cultivate the capacity to listen deeply, even when triggered, and avoid othering.

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Introduction: The Need for Inner-Outer Integration

I recognized that I was bypassing. And actually, of course, there's an absolute need for action in the world and for political action too.

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10 min

Introducing the Outer Work Project

The Outer Work Project is really kind of doing my part of mobilizing 3.5%.

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20 min

Somatics as a Foundation for Social Change

Somatics is really good at helping us know how to hold or learn how to hold complexity without polarizing.

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Unpacking Polarization: Power-Over vs. Power-With

What if power over wasn't our mythos? What if it was power with?

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30 min

From Individualism to Collective Vision: The Role of Longing

The conversation shifts to the importance of collective longing and vision. Haines and Brown reflect on how American individualism has hindered social democracy and how somatics can help scale personal longing into a shared vision for the 'we.' They discuss the power of embodiment in shaping future-oriented action.

High-Impact Quotes
What if power over wasn't our mythos? What if it was power with?
Staci Haines24:58
Viral: 95.0
What future is important enough that you're willing to risk something for it?
Staci Haines61:16
Viral: 92.0
The Outer Work Project is really kind of doing my part of mobilizing 3.5%.
Staci Haines10:17
Viral: 90.0
Speakers

Host

Joel Brown

Guest

Staci Haines
Topics Discussed
Power-Over vs Power-With95%Inner Work as Foundation for Outer Action92%Somatics and Social Change90%Collective Vision and Longing88%Spiritual Bypassing85%Polarization and Its Roots82%Intersectionality and Systemic Change80%Volunteer Engagement and Social Movements80%
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Outer Work Project

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Coaches Rising

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Gandhi

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Richard Strosi Heckler

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Erica Chenoweth

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Van Jones

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Amanda Blake

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