The One Thing You're Actually Hiring a Coach For
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This episode of Chasing Excellence tackles a powerful question from Chase Club member Christina: whether she should follow her coach's advice to take six days off from intense training and stick to walking, swimming, and yoga. Hosts Patrick and Ben challenge the assumption that constant training is necessary for progress, reframing the coach-client relationship around trust, experimentation, and perspective. They argue that the real reason people hire coaches isn’t to confirm what they already believe, but to gain a fresh, outside viewpoint that can reveal blind spots—whether physiological, psychological, or identity-based. Drawing on personal stories, research (including Jack Daniels’ VDOT work), and the concept of supercompensation, they explain that short-term deloading rarely harms performance and often enhances it. The episode emphasizes curiosity over judgment, urging listeners to treat coaching advice as a low-risk experiment. Ultimately, the takeaway is that true growth comes not from relentless effort, but from stepping back to see the bigger picture.
Hiring a coach is not about confirmation—it's about gaining a new perspective to uncover blind spots.
Short-term deloading (like 6 days off) has negligible impact on strength or fitness and may actually improve recovery and performance.
Curiosity over judgment is essential when receiving coaching advice—treat it as an experiment, not a command.
Your identity should not be tied to training; if you're not enjoying the process or recovering well, a break may be necessary.
Good coaches bring context, experience, and the ability to connect dots you can’t see from inside your own routine.
Chase Club Relaunch & Listener Engagement
Patrick announces the relaunch of the Chase Club with structured daily lessons, monthly challenges, and Friday chat clubs. He encourages listeners to join before the price increases in May, emphasizing the value of community and consistent action.
The Real Purpose of Hiring a Coach
“You're hiring a coach for their perspective. If you don't trust their perspective, then that's a different question. But if you trust them enough to say, yes, sure, I will give you money, I will work with you for a month... what you are saying is, I believe that you have a perspective that I could benefit from.”
The Science of Recovery & Deloading
“There is negligible and most likely zero loss in strength or aerobic capacity from a one-week deload. And in fact, many times the opposite happens.”
Identity, Judgment, and the Power of Curiosity
“If you go in with open-minded curiosity, no judgment and go, I truly want to see the experiment of what's on the other side of this.”
Sponsor Segments & Final Takeaways
The episode concludes with sponsor reads for Momentus (gut health), OneSkin (skin longevity), and Element (hydration). The hosts reiterate the core message: treat coaching advice as a low-risk experiment to learn, grow, and reclaim balance.
“You're hiring a coach for their perspective. If you don't trust their perspective, then that's a different question. But if you trust them enough to say, yes, sure, I will give you money, I will work with you for a month... what you are saying is, I believe that you have a perspective that I could benefit from.”
“There is negligible and most likely zero loss in strength or aerobic capacity from a one-week deload. And in fact, many times the opposite happens.”
“If you go in with open-minded curiosity, no judgment and go, I truly want to see the experiment of what's on the other side of this.”
Hosts
Patrick
person
Ben
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Chase Club
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Christina
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Momentus
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OneSkin
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Element
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Jack Daniels
person
Morgan Housel
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Jordan Metzl
person
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