The One Thing You're Actually Hiring a Coach For

Chasing Excellence21mApril 16, 2026

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This episode of Chasing Excellence tackles a powerful question from Chase Club member Christina: whether she should follow her coach's advice to take six days off from intense training and stick to walking, swimming, and yoga. Hosts Patrick and Ben challenge the assumption that constant training is necessary for progress, reframing the coach-client relationship around trust, experimentation, and perspective. They argue that the real reason people hire coaches isn’t to confirm what they already believe, but to gain a fresh, outside viewpoint that can reveal blind spots—whether physiological, psychological, or identity-based. Drawing on personal stories, research (including Jack Daniels’ VDOT work), and the concept of supercompensation, they explain that short-term deloading rarely harms performance and often enhances it. The episode emphasizes curiosity over judgment, urging listeners to treat coaching advice as a low-risk experiment. Ultimately, the takeaway is that true growth comes not from relentless effort, but from stepping back to see the bigger picture.

Key Takeaways
1

Hiring a coach is not about confirmation—it's about gaining a new perspective to uncover blind spots.

2

Short-term deloading (like 6 days off) has negligible impact on strength or fitness and may actually improve recovery and performance.

3

Curiosity over judgment is essential when receiving coaching advice—treat it as an experiment, not a command.

4

Your identity should not be tied to training; if you're not enjoying the process or recovering well, a break may be necessary.

5

Good coaches bring context, experience, and the ability to connect dots you can’t see from inside your own routine.

Chapters
0:00
2 min

Chase Club Relaunch & Listener Engagement

Patrick announces the relaunch of the Chase Club with structured daily lessons, monthly challenges, and Friday chat clubs. He encourages listeners to join before the price increases in May, emphasizing the value of community and consistent action.

2:20
3 min

The Real Purpose of Hiring a Coach

You're hiring a coach for their perspective. If you don't trust their perspective, then that's a different question. But if you trust them enough to say, yes, sure, I will give you money, I will work with you for a month... what you are saying is, I believe that you have a perspective that I could benefit from.

Highlight
5:30
7 min

The Science of Recovery & Deloading

There is negligible and most likely zero loss in strength or aerobic capacity from a one-week deload. And in fact, many times the opposite happens.

Highlight
12:00
6 min

Identity, Judgment, and the Power of Curiosity

If you go in with open-minded curiosity, no judgment and go, I truly want to see the experiment of what's on the other side of this.

Highlight
17:30
4 min

Sponsor Segments & Final Takeaways

The episode concludes with sponsor reads for Momentus (gut health), OneSkin (skin longevity), and Element (hydration). The hosts reiterate the core message: treat coaching advice as a low-risk experiment to learn, grow, and reclaim balance.

High-Impact Quotes
You're hiring a coach for their perspective. If you don't trust their perspective, then that's a different question. But if you trust them enough to say, yes, sure, I will give you money, I will work with you for a month... what you are saying is, I believe that you have a perspective that I could benefit from.
Ben15:01
Viral: 85.0
There is negligible and most likely zero loss in strength or aerobic capacity from a one-week deload. And in fact, many times the opposite happens.
Ben17:08
Viral: 80.0
If you go in with open-minded curiosity, no judgment and go, I truly want to see the experiment of what's on the other side of this.
Patrick22:15
Viral: 75.0
Speakers

Hosts

PatrickBen
Topics Discussed
Coaching And Trust90%Deloading And Recovery85%Perspective And Blind Spots80%Identity And Training75%Curiosity Over Judgment70%Gut Health And Performance40%Skin Longevity Science35%Hydration For Daily Life30%
People & Brands

Patrick

person

15xPositive

Ben

person

14xPositive

Chase Club

organization

8xPositive

Christina

person

6xNeutral

Momentus

brand

4xPositive

OneSkin

brand

3xPositive

Element

brand

3xPositive

Jack Daniels

person

2xPositive

Morgan Housel

person

2xPositive

Jordan Metzl

person

1xPositive

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