Apocalyptic Libertarianism?: A Conversation about Paul and Power (New Testament Theologist)

In this deep and nuanced conversation on the Cantus Firmus podcast, theologian Nick and guest Cody engage in a rich exploration of the intersection between apocalyptic theology, libertarian philosophy, and Pauline thought. The discussion centers on how Paul’s vision of a 'present evil age'—marked by cosmic powers, principalities, and oppressive structures—resonates with libertarian critiques of coercive state power. Cody argues that apocalyptic Pauline theology provides a comprehensive framework that accounts for both spiritual and political realities, offering a radical alternative to both state-centric nationalism and individualistic libertarianism. He emphasizes that Paul’s message is not merely political but deeply ethical and ecclesial, calling the church to be an alternative society grounded in Christ’s victory over the powers. The conversation grapples with tensions between prophetic resistance and practical engagement, the ethics of voting, and the dangers of Christian nationalism. Ultimately, both hosts affirm that the Christian’s ultimate allegiance must be to Christ, not to nation, party, or ideology, and that true freedom lies in being liberated from the systems of domination—spiritual and political—while loving neighbors and resisting evil with wisdom and nonviolence.