Checkmate for Legacy Payroll: How Nmbr and Collage are Killing the Admin Burden

CanadianSME Small Business Podcast20mApril 2, 2026

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The Canadian SME Small Business Podcast dives into a transformative shift in payroll and HR technology, spotlighting how Nmbr and Collage are dismantling decades of administrative burden through a fully unified PeopleOps platform. Despite Canada’s digital progress, nearly a third of businesses still spend over 30 hours weekly on fragmented payroll systems—largely due to the immense complexity of tax compliance, payments infrastructure, and government filings that deter U.S. software giants from entering the Canadian market. Simon Bourgeois of Nmbr and Mark Bluffstein of Collage, both veterans of the HR tech space and former colleagues at Humi, have leveraged their deep industry experience to create a best-in-class integration that merges elite payroll infrastructure with top-tier HR and benefits management. Their partnership, now enhanced by embedded finance with ATB Financial, allows small businesses to onboard in one click directly from their business banking platform—eliminating manual data entry and reducing compliance risk. Looking ahead, they envision AI and real-time payment rails revolutionizing the industry, making payroll not just automated but predictive and proactive. The message is clear: legacy systems are obsolete, and switching is easier than ever—especially with AI-driven data migration. The episode delivers a powerful call to action: stop letting outdated software sabotage growth.

Key Takeaways
1

Payroll in Canada remains stagnant due to complex tax, payment, and government filing barriers that deter U.S. software providers.

2

Nmbr and Collage have created Canada’s first unified PeopleOps platform by combining best-in-class payroll infrastructure with top-tier HR and benefits software.

3

ATB Financial’s integration with Nmbr enables one-click payroll onboarding directly from business banking—making setup faster and easier than ever.

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AI is already enhancing HR workflows, such as resume screening and benefits package summarization, and will continue to reduce manual work in the next 5 years.

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Real-time payment rails in Canada are expected to launch within the next 12–18 months, accelerating payroll processing and financial operations.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

Introduction to the Payroll Revolution

Kripa Anand introduces the podcast and sets the stage for a deep dive into the modernization of payroll in Canada, highlighting the persistent administrative burden faced by small businesses.

2:00
3 min

Why Payroll Remains Stagnant in Canada

The challenge of crossing three significant barriers in terms of payments and tax calculations and filings and setting all that up just is such a burden that it hasn't made sense for any or for most of the 700 plus software providers in the U.S. to come into Canada.

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5:00
4 min

The Birth of a Unified PeopleOps Platform

Payroll software has been the number one request from clients and prospects from before I joined and took over Collage. This was an incredible opportunity to do something better than is done in the industry.

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9:00
4 min

From Humi to Nmbr: A Battle-Tested Partnership

We together, Mark and I now are in a unique position to be able to finally bring together two really best-in-class pieces of software to deliver on a vision that we've shared for quite some time.

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13:00
4 min

Embedded Finance with ATB Financial

They've connected our infrastructure directly into their business banking experience, making it what I believe is the easiest payroll platform to onboard to in Canada, maybe the world, because it is one click away.

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High-Impact Quotes
They've connected our infrastructure directly into their business banking experience, making it what I believe is the easiest payroll platform to onboard to in Canada, maybe the world, because it is one click away.
Simon Bourgeois11:43
Viral: 88.0
challenge of crossing those three significant barriers in terms of payments and tax calculations and filings and setting all that up just is such a burden. that it hasn't made sense for any or for most of the 700 plus software providers in the U .S. to come into
Simon Bourgeois3:31
Viral: 85.0
There is something better. There's a better way. It doesn't have to be so painful as those business owners are doing right now.
Simon Bourgeois18:25
Viral: 75.0
Speakers

Host

Kripa Anand

Guests

Simon BourgeoisMark Bluffstein
Topics Discussed
unified peopleops98%payroll automation95%embedded finance92%hr tech90%real-time payments88%ai in hr85%small business technology82%benefits brokerage80%
People & Brands

Simon Bourgeois

person

14xPositive

Mark Bluffstein

person

13xPositive

Collage

organization

12xPositive

Nmbr

organization

11xPositive

Kripa Anand

person

10xNeutral

ATB Financial

organization

4xPositive

Humi

organization

3xNeutral

Wave Financial

organization

2xNeutral

People Corporation

organization

2xPositive

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