Hour 3 - Here's The Thing, Justin Toole
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The Mariners' Director of Player Development, Justin Toole, joins Brock and Salk to break down the rise of Colt Emerson and the broader philosophy behind the team's player development system. Toole reveals that Emerson wasn't just a top draft pick—he was unanimously praised by his peers as the best player on the amateur circuit, a testament to his intangibles and leadership even before he stepped into the pros. The episode dives into the delicate balance of nurturing talent: how failure is not just inevitable but essential, and how mental skills are as critical as physical tools. Toole emphasizes that 'trusting the process' isn't a cliché—it's a daily commitment across a complex, multi-layered system involving scouts, coaches, and development staff. He shares personal insights from his own journey as a journeyman player who played all nine positions, using his psychology degree to help others navigate adversity. The conversation also tackles the pressures of youth sports, advocating for multi-sport participation and patience in development. One standout moment: a 24-year-old prospect, Feldenin-Solestine, is four games from breaking a single-A hitting streak record, highlighting the long-term nature of success in baseball. The episode ends with a heartwarming look at the Mariners' 'recess takeover' initiative, where players like Connor Joe play with kids, reminding everyone that joy and connection are just as important as wins and stats.
Colt Emerson was unanimously voted the best player by his peers in the amateur draft, not just for talent but for leadership and intangibles.
Failure is a core part of baseball development—coaches must teach players to embrace it as a tool for growth, not a sign of weakness.
Mental skills and process-focused training are prioritized over results, helping players recover from slumps and maintain confidence.
The Mariners' player development system is a massive, interconnected family of scouts, coaches, and staff—far more complex than fans realize.
Young athletes should play multiple sports to develop diverse movement patterns and resilience, not specialize too early.
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Intro: The 'Here's the Thing' Segment
Brock and Salk kick off the show with their pre-recorded 'Here's the Thing' segment, poking fun at their own dynamic and the show's format, while teasing the upcoming interview with Justin Toole.
The 'Professional Moron' Bit & Early Banter
Mike Salk leans into his self-deprecating 'professional moron' persona, while Brock mocks Salk's hockey bias and the absurdity of comparing players' foreheads. The banter sets a playful tone.
Mariners' Performance & the 'One-Run Game' Debate
The hosts debate the meaning of one-run game records, arguing that scoring one extra run doesn't guarantee a win—two are needed. They mock the idea that losing one-run games is a sign of weakness.
Randy Rosarena’s Heroics & the 'Johnny Pareda Era'
Brock and Salk praise Randy Rosarena’s two-run home run as the game-changer, calling him the MVP of the first third of the season. They highlight Johnny Pareda’s clutch hit and his joyful demeanor.
JP Crawford’s Move to Third Base & the 'Piggyback' Strategy
The hosts discuss JP Crawford’s decision to learn third base to extend his career. They critique the 'piggyback' pitching strategy, calling it a questionable managerial move that puts players in poor positions.
“If there's something that you want to do, it might not be happening right then and there, but if you continue to work and do the right things and go about things the right way, there'll be opportunities that come up.”
“He's a guy we loved out of the draft. It was actually my first year over here in the org 2023. And it feels like yesterday you're sitting in a suite at Lumen and for the draft and you make the pick and then you open up the suite and you go outside and you hear the crowd just cheer for him as the pick.”
“You're going to fail at the plate often just with the nature of the game, how good pitching is, things like that. So with our hitters, you're constantly trying to find what's the right level to get them at to get them experience with better pitching, faster pace, little things like that.”
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brock huard
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mike salk
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justin toole
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colt emerson
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randy rosarena
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feldenin-solestine
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brock moore
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hawkeye
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connor joe
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