How to Reduce Stress and Anxiety Fast with Dr Laurel Mellin
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In this episode of the Bob and Brad podcast, host Mike Kienitz interviews Dr. Laurel Mellin, a renowned health psychologist and New York Times bestselling author, about her groundbreaking Emotional Brain Training (EBT) method. Dr. Mellin shares how her personal experiences with family stress and her academic journey led her to develop a science-backed, five-minute daily practice that rewires the brain’s stress circuits—unconscious neural patterns formed during traumatic or stressful events. These circuits, stored in the amygdala, perpetuate chronic stress, anxiety, depression, and physical ailments by continuously releasing stress chemicals. EBT’s core innovation is its ability to process toxic emotions fully, completing the emotional arc and replacing stress with joy—a state neuroscientists call 'connection' and 'flow.' The method, now backed by long-term studies, allows individuals to reset their physiology, reduce reliance on pharmaceuticals, and improve mental and physical health. Dr. Mellin emphasizes that EBT is not therapy-dependent; it’s a self-therapy tool accessible anytime, anywhere, with an app, community support, and a 30-day plan outlined in her new book, The 5-Minute Solution. She also critiques traditional psychotherapy for focusing on cognition rather than emotional processing, calling it ineffective for lasting change. The episode concludes with practical steps: start with joy points, use the spiral-up technique, and rewire your brain to naturally default to well-being.
Chronic stress is not just psychological—it's physiological, rooted in unconscious 'survival circuits' stored in the amygdala that keep the body in a state of stress overload.
Emotional Brain Training (EBT) allows you to rewire these circuits in just 3–5 minutes by fully processing toxic emotions and completing the emotional arc to joy.
Joy is not happiness—it's a state of deep connection, purpose, and flow that the brain naturally seeks and can be accessed through simple practices like recalling joyful memories or physical sensations.
Traditional therapy often fails because it focuses on thoughts and insights, not emotional processing—EBT bypasses the thinking brain to directly rewire the emotional brain.
The EBT method is self-directed, scalable, and designed to be used multiple times a day, making it a sustainable, long-term solution for anxiety, depression, chronic pain, and addiction.
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Introduction to Dr. Laurel Mellin and Emotional Brain Training
Mike Kienitz introduces Dr. Laurel Mellin, a health psychologist and creator of Emotional Brain Training (EBT), highlighting her credentials, research background, and the launch of her new book, The 5-Minute Solution.
The Origin of EBT: From Personal Struggle to Scientific Breakthrough
Dr. Mellin shares her personal journey—growing up in a family with chronic illness and emotional struggles—which led her to study the root causes of suffering and eventually develop EBT after discovering a 1940s study on emotional connectivity.
The Science Behind Survival Circuits and Emotional Processing
“The reason you don't know about it and I don't know about it and I didn't until 2007... no one had a way to clear them.”
How EBT Rewires the Brain in Minutes
“You want to get your chemicals from your own brain if you can. And then if you can't, just supplement it with whatever else you want.”
Why Traditional Therapy Falls Short
“You go into a therapist and they talk to you for 50 minutes. It makes you feel better, but truly when you walked into the office and had stress, the stress circuit was unlocked.”
“You go into a therapist and they talk to you for 50 minutes. It makes you feel better, but truly when you walked into the office and had stress, the stress circuit was unlocked.”
“You want to get your chemicals from your own brain if you can. And then if you can't, just supplement it with whatever else you want.”
“Start your day by saying the whole world can be stressed out, but I know what's going on in my brain. My brain is essentially wired to give me joy, so I am going to choose joy.”
Host
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Dr. Laurel Mellin
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Emotional Brain Training
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EBT.org
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The 5-Minute Solution
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University of California, San Francisco
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Igor Mitrovich
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Tammy Rose
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Hilda Brooke
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Los Angeles County Psychological Association
organization
Mike Merzenek
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