Creationships, Not Destructionships - MTP510
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In this episode of *The Mountaintop Podcast*, host Scott McKay welcomes Australian guest Simone Millicis to introduce a powerful new concept: the 'creationship'—a relationship built on mutual creation, growth, and joy rather than destruction or sacrifice. Simone challenges the outdated notion that relationships require giving up parts of oneself, arguing instead that true partnership should amplify both individuals, creating something greater than the sum of its parts. Drawing from her own life—travel, long-term non-traditional relationships, and work with Access Consciousness tools—she emphasizes authenticity, intentional communication, and the courage to ask for what you want. Scott shares personal stories of how his life has become more vibrant and adventurous since partnering with his wife, countering the myth that relationships limit freedom. The conversation critiques modern dating culture, especially the emptiness of hookup culture and the paralysis caused by dating apps, and calls for a revival of genuine human connection through simple acts like opening doors, making eye contact, and having meaningful conversations without phones. The episode ends with a vision of 'intimate evenings' where people reconnect through curiosity and presence, rekindling the lost art of human engagement.
A 'creationship' is a relationship where both people grow and create more together than they could alone—aim for 20x more value, not just 2x.
Authenticity over sacrifice: Don’t cut off parts of yourself to fit someone else; choose a partner who allows you to be fully you.
Small, intentional gestures (like offering to open a door or asking for a refill) are powerful acts of connection and can reignite the romance in everyday life.
The fear of rejection is often a projection—when someone doesn’t respond positively to kindness, it’s their issue, not yours.
Rebuild human connection by putting phones away, asking questions, and creating space for genuine conversation—especially with strangers.
Introducing the Creationship Concept
“One plus one in a relationship shouldn't equal two. It should equal five, 10 or 50.”
The Myth of Sacrifice in Relationships
“It's not like I'm going to get into a relationship and have to give up everything? And that is the most devastating myth about relationships ever.”
From Hookups to Meaningful Connection
“It's actually very easy to hook up with someone. Very easy to hook up with someone. I was like, but is it actually bringing me fun? Is it joy?”
Rebuilding Human Connection
Scott and Simone advocate for a return to old-school engagement—eye contact, conversation, and small acts of courtesy—as a way to rebuild trust and intimacy in a digital age.
The Power of Intentional Presence
Simone shares her vision for 'intimate evenings' where people put phones away and engage deeply with one another, creating space for vulnerability and mutual discovery.
“It's not like I'm going to get into a relationship and have to give up everything? And that is the most devastating myth about relationships ever.”
“If you're being good and decent and thoughtful and not being self-centered and you're trying to offer something that would make the world a better place and the other person is nasty to you for it. Get into the habit of just recognizing that that's their problem, not yours.”
“One plus one in a relationship shouldn't equal two. It should equal five, 10 or 50.”
Host
Guest
Simone Millicis
person
Scott McKay
person
Mountaintop Podcast
media
X and Y Communications
organization
Costa Rica
place
Australia
place
Access Consciousness Tools
organization
2026
other
El Lugar
place
Jocko Willink
person
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