Return To The Gangs of Goodfellas Defense (Pt II of Return to Episode 8)

Best Picture Cast50mApril 13, 2026

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Five years after their infamous 'Gangs of Goodfellas Defense' episode, the Best Picture Cast team returns to reevaluate their takes on Martin Scorsese’s *Goodfellas* and *Gangs of New York*. While their opinions on *Goodfellas* remain stubbornly unchanged—Grant still calls it a masterpiece, Chris remains captivated, and Artie declares he’s 'done' with the film—their views on *Gangs of New York* have dramatically shifted. Artie, once dismissive, now admits he’s softened on the film, though still finds it flawed. Grant and Chris, however, stand firm in their belief that the film is a mess, with Chris calling the opening fight scene 'like a bad Royal Rumble' and accusing it of being Weinstein-era studio interference. The episode becomes a meditation on how taste evolves, how films age, and how the podcast’s own growth has sharpened their critical eye. What emerges isn’t just a rehash of old takes, but a powerful testament to the idea that some films are timeless not because they’re flawless, but because they endure—while others, no matter how ambitious, can’t survive the test of time or personal connection. The most striking takeaway is the contrast in engagement: *Goodfellas* remains a film that, despite its flaws, continues to grow in stature for some, while *Gangs of New York*—once a point of passionate defense—now feels like a failed epic, a victim of studio meddling and over-stylization.

Key Takeaways
1

Artie still refuses to watch *Goodfellas* again, calling it 'a movie that does not keep my interests' despite its cultural status.

2

Grant reaffirms his belief that *Goodfellas* is a 'masterclass in filmmaking' and has grown more passionate about it over time.

3

Chris admits he was once forced to defend *Gangs of New York* and now calls the opening fight scene 'like a bad Royal Rumble'.

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The team agrees *Gangs of New York* suffers from studio interference, with Miramax and Harvey Weinstein likely distorting Scorsese’s original vision.

5

Artie softens on *Gangs of New York*, acknowledging there’s 'a good movie in here' despite its flaws and weak execution.

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Chapters
0:00
5 min

Introduction to the Return to Episode 8

Kieran B. introduces the second part of a two-part revisited episode, recapping the controversial 'Gangs of Goodfellas Defense' from episode eight. He sets the stage for a reflective conversation on how their opinions on *Goodfellas* and *Gangs of New York* have evolved over five years.

5:00
5 min

Revisiting the Original Episode and Personal Growth

The team reflects on their early days as a podcast, admitting they were unprepared and unpolished. They discuss how their film literacy has grown, especially in understanding older films like *Broadway Melody*, and how their self-awareness has improved.

10:00
10 min

Re-evaluating Goodfellas: Masterpiece or Overrated?

I'm 40 years old and I hate this movie. So Artie, before we transition... I actually like this movie. I'm 40 years old and I refuse to change.

Highlight
20:00
15 min

The Narration Debate: Overstimulation vs. Storytelling

The team dives deep into the film’s voiceover, with Artie arguing it’s overstimulating and disconnects him from the story. Grant counters that it adds color and foreshadowing, while Chris notes the narration reflects the protagonist’s descent into cocaine addiction.

35:00
15 min

Gangs of New York: From Defense to Dismissal

The opening scene sucks so much. It is awful. I can't believe I text Kieran a few days ago and said, I've seen Royal Rumbles that are more believable.

Highlight
High-Impact Quotes
This is it. This is it. Michael Jackson, this is it. Goodfellas is a movie that everyone loves that does not keep my interests. Fuck you all.
Artie27:47
Viral: 88.0
The opening scene sucks so much. It is awful. I can't believe I text Kieran a few days ago and said, I've seen Royal Rumbles that are more believable.
Artie30:09
Viral: 85.0
I'm 40 years old and I hate this movie. So Artie, before we transition... I actually like this movie. I'm 40 years old and I refuse to change.
Chris27:13
Viral: 78.0
Speakers

Host

Kieran B.
Topics Discussed
goodfellas95%gangs of new york90%scorsese85%studio interference80%voiceover narration75%film criticism70%podcast evolution65%film nostalgia60%
People & Brands

goodfellas

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45xMixed

gangs of new york

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38xNegative

best picture cast

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25xNeutral

artie

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20xNeutral

chris

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18xNeutral

grant

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15xNeutral

martin scorsese

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12xNeutral

kieran b.

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10xNeutral

daniel day-lewis

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8xMixed

leo di caprio

person

7xNegative

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