How to Influence Others (Ethically) | Brian Ahearn
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In this episode of Behavioral Grooves, hosts Kurt Nelson and Tim Houlihan welcome back Brian Ahearn, a Cialdini method-certified trainer and author, to discuss his new book, *Influence from Above*. The book uniquely blends Robert Cialdini’s principles of persuasion with biblical tenets through a narrative featuring John Andrews, a retired corporate leader who applies ethical influence in a faith-based community. Brian emphasizes that true influence isn’t about forcing a 'yes' but about serving others with humility, love, and integrity. He explores how faith and behavioral science can coexist, using scripture to ground ethical influence and arguing that humility—understood not as self-deprecation but as focusing on others—is foundational to authentic leadership. The conversation delves into the difference between ethics (external rules) and morality (internal values), the power of identity change (e.g., becoming a 'runner' rather than just running), and the transformative potential of influencing hearts, not just minds. Listeners are encouraged to reflect on how they can use influence to serve others, especially in leadership and personal relationships. Brian shares powerful real-world responses from readers who felt the book was a divine nudge in their lives, reinforcing its emotional and spiritual impact.
Ethical influence is not about manipulation but about serving others with humility and love.
True influence changes identity—people don’t just change behavior, they become different people over time.
Humility is not thinking less of yourself, but thinking less about yourself and more about others.
Faith and behavioral science are not opposites; they can be powerfully aligned through principles like reciprocity, liking, and consistency.
The most impactful influence happens when you help others see their own potential, not just your own agenda.
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Welcome Back: Brian Ahearn and the Power of Ethical Influence
The hosts introduce Brian Ahearn, a returning guest and Cialdini-certified trainer, setting the stage for a deep dive into his new book, *Influence from Above*, which merges behavioral science with faith-based principles. They reflect on their long-standing relationship with Brian and preview the episode’s focus on humility, ethics, and influence.
The Birth of a Book: Faith, Influence, and a Daughter’s Question
“She said, what I want to know, Dad, is where is God in all this? How does he fit into what you do, the psychology you teach?”
Storytelling as a Tool for Ethical Influence
Brian details the narrative structure of *Influence from Above*, following John Andrews as he transitions from corporate success to spiritual leadership. The story uses real-life scenarios to show how biblical principles like 'do unto others' align with Cialdini’s influence tactics.
Faith and Influence: A Unique Convergence
“I don’t have to worry about those things when I'm saying, I want to be pleasing to God. I want to be doing right by my neighbor.”
Humility, Love, and the Ethical Framework of Influence
“Humility is not thinking less of yourself. It's thinking of yourself less.”
“It's like God speaking to me through this. It is more than a tap on the shoulder that I'm supposed to be reading this.”
“Humility is not thinking less of yourself. It's thinking of yourself less.”
“I don’t have to worry about those things when I'm saying, I want to be pleasing to God. I want to be doing right by my neighbor.”
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