Why Managing Denials Isn’t Enough — It’s Time to Eliminate Them
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In this episode of the Becker's Healthcare Podcast, host Lucas Voss sits down with Patrick D'Angelo, president of Coral Health, to discuss the evolving landscape of healthcare revenue cycle management—specifically, why merely managing denials is no longer sufficient. D'Angelo argues that the focus must shift to eliminating denials entirely by leveraging technology, particularly AI, as the driving force in workflows. He emphasizes a fundamental shift from 'people process technology' to 'technology people,' where intelligent systems guide staff to high-impact areas like front-end registration and back-end collections. The conversation dives into the critical distinction between 'self-pay after insurance' and 'pure self-pay,' highlighting how AI should be used strategically: as a nudge for tech-savvy patients who are likely to pay, but with a human touch required for those in financial distress or facing serious illness. D'Angelo also warns leaders about red flags in AI implementation, such as declining cash flow, rising AR aging, and low resolution rates despite high contact volume. He stresses the importance of data-driven payer negotiations and continuous process optimization in an ever-changing environment where payers and providers are locked in a constant adaptation cycle.
Shift from managing denials to eliminating them by embedding AI as the primary driver of revenue cycle workflows.
Differentiate between 'self-pay after insurance' (tech-savvy, responsive to AI nudges) and 'pure self-pay' (requires human empathy and financial assistance)
Use AI to identify routine denial patterns and re-engineer processes quickly—faster than traditional human retraining.
Monitor key metrics like AR aging and cash flow to detect AI implementation failures early.
Maintain a human touch in sensitive cases (e.g., pediatric care, serious illness) to preserve patient trust and hospital ethics.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The Shift from Managing to Eliminating Denials
“Why managing denials isn’t enough — it’s really time to eliminate them.”
The Technology-People Paradigm Shift
“Technology is really the process... you're going to load technology. It's going to tell you everything you want it to do.”
AI in Patient Financial Conversations: Self-Pay vs. Self-Pay After Insurance
“If you have a family member or yourself that's going through a horrible health issue... having a robot constantly call you impacts the community and the ethic of the hospital.”
Warning Signs of Failed AI Implementation
D'Angelo outlines key indicators that an AI system isn't working—such as declining cash flow, rising AR aging, and low resolution rates despite high contact volume. He stresses the need for real-time monitoring and rapid iteration, enabled by technology, to prevent snowballing issues.
The Ongoing Cat-and-Mouse Game: Payers, Providers, and Continuous Improvement
The conversation concludes with the reality that payers and providers are in a constant state of adaptation. D'Angelo urges revenue cycle leaders to stay agile, use data to identify pain points, and build strong, evidence-based relationships with payers to drive systemic change.
“If you have a family member or yourself that's going through a horrible health issue... having a robot constantly call you impacts the community and the ethic of the hospital.”
“Why managing denials isn’t enough — it’s really time to eliminate them.”
“Technology is really the process... you're going to load technology. It's going to tell you everything you want it to do.”
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Patrick D'Angelo
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Lucas Voss
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Coral Health
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Becker's Healthcare
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