Hasan Shanawani, Associate Chief Medical Officer at Horizon Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Jersey
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Dr. Hassan Shanawani, Associate Chief Medical Officer at Horizon Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Jersey, joins Scott King on the Becker's Healthcare Podcast to discuss the evolving role of health insurers in managing rising healthcare costs while improving member experience. Drawing from his extensive background in patient safety, federal healthcare IT, and quality improvement—particularly during the VA's massive EHR transition—Shanawani emphasizes the need to shift from adversarial prior authorization practices to collaborative, transparent care coordination. He highlights Horizon’s strategic use of AI not to deny care, but to accelerate approvals, reduce administrative burden, and empower providers and members. By leveraging AI for real-time documentation review, voice-enabled IVR systems, and digital front doors for primary and specialty care, Horizon aims to make high-quality care more accessible, equitable, and efficient. Shanawani also addresses the growing role of AI in member interactions, noting that while trust remains a challenge on the provider and payer side, AI has the potential to democratize healthcare information and decision-making—much like the printing press revolutionized access to religious texts. He envisions a future where AI fosters alignment among members, providers, and payers, transforming the healthcare ecosystem from one of conflict to one of shared purpose. Key takeaways include: 1) Use AI to approve, not deny—automate routine decisions to reduce delays and provider frustration; 2) Simplify care navigation by standardizing site-of-service pricing and steering members to high-quality, lower-cost options; 3) Invest in digital front doors and voice-enabled tools to improve access and equity, especially for underserved populations; 4) Build agentic governance models to ensure AI accuracy and accountability; 5) Prioritize transparency and education to build trust with members and providers. The episode concludes on an optimistic note, framing AI not as a threat but as a transformative force for equity, efficiency, and human-centered care in health insurance.
Use AI to approve care, not deny it—automate routine decisions to reduce delays and provider frustration.
Simplify care navigation by standardizing site-of-service pricing and steering members to high-quality, lower-cost options.
Invest in digital front doors and voice-enabled tools to improve access and equity, especially for underserved populations.
Build agentic governance models to ensure AI accuracy and accountability.
Prioritize transparency and education to build trust with members and providers.
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Introduction and Background
Scott King welcomes Dr. Hassan Shanawani, Associate Chief Medical Officer at Horizon Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Jersey, and explores his diverse career journey from pulmonary medicine to federal patient safety leadership and EHR transformation at the VA.
The Rising Cost of Healthcare and Adversarial Payer-Provider Dynamics
“I call it the health care equivalent of the Seinfeld soup Nazi. No authorization for you type of thing.”
Reimagining Care Coordination Through Transparency and Collaboration
“We're trying to get to a place where we can align the members, the providers and the pairs so that we're all looking at this and managing it from the same side of the table.”
AI as an Enabler for Faster Approvals and Reduced Burden
“We're actually trying to use AI to approve, approve, approve. And only when our AI cannot find any way to approve something and it's exhausted everything possible does it then put it in front of a person.”
Digital Transformation and Equity in Care Access
“If we can reduce the amount of time that a member needs to be on the phone from 45 minutes to 15, then that's 30 minutes that they can be a mom or a dad or go back to work.”
“The internet in general and AI in particular are kind of like the Gutenberg Bible in the sense that not everyone had a copy of the Bible. But once you have the – once everyone could get a copy of it, then everyone could start talking to their religious authorities and that made a fundamentally less coercive relationship.”
“We're actually trying to use AI to approve, approve, approve. And only when our AI cannot find any way to approve something and it's exhausted everything possible does it then put it in front of a person.”
“I call it the health care equivalent of the Seinfeld soup Nazi. No authorization for you type of thing.”
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