Hour 3: Jets QB Plans & Dexter Lawrence Requests Trade
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In this episode of the Bart and Carlin podcast, the hosts dive deep into the Jets' upcoming draft strategy, particularly focusing on whether they should select quarterback Ty Simpson with the 16th overall pick. Chris Carlin expresses skepticism about the Jets' coaching staff's ability to develop Simpson, given Aaron Glenn's uncertain future and the team's lack of a clear quarterback plan. He argues that taking Simpson at 16 is too risky, especially with the Jets' three first-round picks in 2027 and a deeper quarterback class expected next year. Instead, he advocates for targeting elite receivers or defensive players at 16, reserving the 16th pick for a later-round gamble. The discussion shifts to trade scenarios, including a hypothetical deal with the Raiders for the #1 pick, which Carlin says he'd accept despite the cost, and a potential trade with the Cowboys that would give the Jets four first-round picks in 2027—making the future look promising regardless of Glenn's tenure. The episode also covers a major development: Giants All-Pro defensive tackle Dexter Lawrence has requested a trade and will not participate in offseason workouts. The hosts analyze Lawrence’s situation, noting his contract dispute, declining performance, and the possibility of a trade to teams like the Bears or Chargers, with the latter being a strong fit due to the Harbaugh connection. They debate the value of Lawrence, comparing him to Quinnen Williams, and conclude that a first-round pick is necessary for any trade. The episode closes with a lighthearted segment on Yankees Stadium food reviews, including a 9.5 rating for a unique ice cream treat.
The Jets should avoid taking Ty Simpson at #16 due to coaching uncertainty and the risk of wasting a top pick on a player with only 15 career starts.
A better strategy is to trade back or use the 16th pick on a high-impact receiver or defensive player, preserving future flexibility with three first-round picks in 2027.
A trade with the Cowboys for the 12th pick could give the Jets four first-round picks in 2027, making the future extremely attractive regardless of Aaron Glenn's fate.
Dexter Lawrence's trade request is driven by a contract dispute and declining performance, making him a valuable asset for a team needing a dominant defensive tackle.
The Giants are unlikely to accept less than a first-round pick for Lawrence, and teams like the Chargers (with Harbaugh ties) or Bears (with defensive line needs) are top trade destinations.
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Opening Segment & Drop Madness Drama
The episode opens with a sponsor ad for Forza Horizon 6, followed by a humorous recap of Bart Scott nearly dying on air during a college football broadcast. The hosts reflect on the incident, with Chris Carlin joking about not wanting to replicate Bart’s vocal strain. They transition into discussing Bart’s dominant run in the 'Drop Madness' contest, where he’s a heavy favorite to win.
Ty Simpson & the Jets' QB Dilemma
“If you're Aaron Glenn, you don't want Ty Simpson. You want them to take Makai Levin at 16. You want them to take Jordan Tyson if the injury stuff is the reason why a top five to eight player is actually there at 16.”
Trade Scenarios & Draft Strategy
“I would do this in a second, Chris. If you're talking about getting two awesome football players, two very good players at 12 and 16 in this scenario, plus some extra picks, you have four first-round picks now.”
Dexter Lawrence's Trade Request
“They don't respect you is a tough thing to hear. Well, it's who's saying it too, right? I mean, it's a giant legend who knows what he's looking at on film calling out a guy who was great two years ago and was not the same guy at all.”
Food Reviews & Final Thoughts
The hosts wrap up with a lighthearted segment on Yankees Stadium food, including a 9.5-rated ice cream treat that resembles fried chicken. They also reflect on the emotional weight of the draft and trade discussions, emphasizing that while fans want wins, the Jets’ future may depend on patience and long-term planning.
“I would do this in a second, Chris. If you're talking about getting two awesome football players, two very good players at 12 and 16 in this scenario, plus some extra picks, you have four first-round picks now.”
“They don't respect you is a tough thing to hear. Well, it's who's saying it too, right? I mean, it's a giant legend who knows what he's looking at on film calling out a guy who was great two years ago and was not the same guy at all.”
“If you're Aaron Glenn, you don't want Ty Simpson. You want them to take Makai Levin at 16. You want them to take Jordan Tyson if the injury stuff is the reason why a top five to eight player is actually there at 16.”
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Bart Scott
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Ty Simpson
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Dexter Lawrence
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Aaron Glenn
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Quinnen Williams
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