603 | Gen's Second Birth Story: From IVF challenges to a powerfully healing birth experience
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Jen returns to the Australian Birth Stories podcast to share her deeply personal journey of conceiving and giving birth to her second son, Roy, after a challenging IVF process and a difficult first birth experience. She candidly discusses the emotional toll of trying to conceive naturally after IVF, the physical and mental strain of hyperemesis gravidarum during her second pregnancy, and the profound impact of a birth debrief with a professional midwife-counsellor that helped her process trauma from her first birth. Her second birth was a powerful, intentional experience marked by a spontaneous labour, a maternal-assisted delivery where she pulled her baby out herself, and the use of an epidural—something she frames not as a failure, but as a tool for empowerment and calm. Despite a chaotic postpartum stay in a noisy, construction-filled hospital room, Jen found healing in the presence of her newborn and the ability to reclaim her birth narrative. She reflects on the complexity of postpartum life with two young children, the reality of sleepless nights, and the importance of self-compassion over perfection. Her story is one of resilience, reclamation, and the transformative power of a birth that felt truly hers.
Pain relief like epidurals can be a tool for calm, presence, and empowerment—not a sign of weakness.
A birth debrief with a trained professional can be transformative in processing trauma and planning a better birth experience.
Spontaneous labour, even with a second baby, can be a powerful and validating experience.
The physical and emotional toll of hyperemesis gravidarum is real and deserves medical and emotional support.
Postpartum recovery is not one-size-fits-all—what works for one parent may not work for another, especially with multiple young children.
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Acknowledging Country and Sponsor Intro
The episode opens with a respectful acknowledgment of First Nations peoples and their enduring connection to the land, followed by a sponsored segment for Roma, an Australian children's lifestyle brand offering sustainable, parent-designed mealtime products.
Jen’s Journey: From IVF to Second Conception
“I was like, well, see, I do need IVF. Even the IVF didn't work. Like I do, like I'm not rushing to IVF. Like I need it to get pregnant.”
Hyperemesis and the Physical Toll of Pregnancy
“I was so unwell on the plane. I was holding that vomit bag for dear life. The poor guy in his suit next to me, I'm basically gripping his arm, dry retching into this plain sick bag.”
Birth Debrief and Mental Preparation
“The best thing I did was a birth debrief. It is the best thing I did for my own mental health and just health in general pre-birth.”
The Birth: Spontaneous Labour and Maternal Assisted Delivery
“I just reach down and grab him under his underarms. And I just... pull my own baby out of my body, which is all I wanted to do.”
“I just reach down and grab him under his underarms. And I just... pull my own baby out of my body, which is all I wanted to do.”
“I was so unwell on the plane. I was holding that vomit bag for dear life. The poor guy in his suit next to me, I'm basically gripping his arm, dry retching into this plain sick bag.”
“I don't care if it's because I saw it on the Kardashians. I just felt like such a powerful, strong woman to be able to pull my own baby out of my body.”
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Jen
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Roy
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Robbie
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Sophie Walker
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Roma
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Sage Clinics
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G. Laurie Gabrielle
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Amber
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Doravich
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Hydra Mama
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