Conversion Therapy Ban Struck Down, Florida Incest Marriage, Sandwiches and Cocaine

Attitudes!1h 9mApril 2, 2026

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In this episode of Attitudes!, hosts Brian Safi and Erin Gibson dive into a whirlwind of cultural, political, and personal topics with their signature blend of humor and sharp critique. The conversation kicks off with a playful riff on sandwich culture, focusing on Schlotzky's Deli, its quirky slogans, and the nostalgic appeal of airport delis. They then pivot to a serious discussion on the U.S. Supreme Court’s recent decision to strike down Colorado’s ban on conversion therapy for LGBTQ+ minors, with the court ruling 8-1 that the law violated free speech rights. The hosts express outrage at the ruling, emphasizing that conversion therapy is medically discredited and harmful, especially to minors, and lament the court’s prioritization of religious speech over patient safety. They also critique Florida’s failed attempt to ban incestuous marriages, highlighting the state’s ongoing contradictions on reproductive rights and family values. Texas is scrutinized for Comptroller Kelly Hancock’s dismantling of the HUB program, which supported minority- and women-owned businesses, calling it a move rooted in anti-DEI ideology. The episode concludes with a satirical look at political hypocrisy, including a viral moment where Gavin Newsom’s office mocked a homophobic MAGA influencer using Grindr data, and a humorous yet pointed discussion about the ethics of outing politicians. The hosts also preview new content, including a Patreon vault episode on hot air balloons and a new Dateline recap. Key takeaways include: 1) Conversion therapy should be banned not just for its harm but because it’s not medical practice—it’s religious coercion; 2) The Supreme Court’s decision reflects a dangerous trend of prioritizing speech over public health; 3) States like Florida and Texas continue to undermine LGBTQ+ rights while claiming to protect family values; 4) Political hypocrisy—especially around sexuality and privacy—must be called out with receipts, not just rhetoric; 5) Small, everyday pleasures like sandwiches and music can be powerful cultural touchstones; 6) The importance of ethical business practices and inclusive policies in government contracting; 7) The power of satire and truth-telling in political discourse; 8) Always read the fine print—especially when it comes to marriage laws and DEI programs.

Key Takeaways
1

Conversion therapy is not protected speech—it’s harmful medical misconduct and should be banned.

2

The Supreme Court’s 8-1 decision to strike down Colorado’s conversion therapy ban prioritizes religious speech over LGBTQ+ youth safety.

3

Florida’s failed incest marriage ban exposes the state’s hypocrisy on family values and reproductive rights.

4

Texas dismantling the HUB program is a direct attack on equity and inclusion in government contracting.

5

Political hypocrisy—like using Grindr to out homophobes—should be backed by evidence, not just innuendo.

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Chapters
0:00
10 min

The Sandwich & the Slogan: Schlotzky's Deli and the Art of the Airport Snack

The hosts launch into a lighthearted, nostalgic deep dive into Schlotzky's Deli, exploring its Texas roots, iconic sandwich construction (especially the 'mixed meats' and 'mufalata'), and its evolving slogans. They critique the current 'crunch and sink your teeth into this' tagline as cringey and compare it to past slogans like 'all round, lots better' and 'no substitute skis'. The discussion highlights the cultural significance of airport food and the emotional connection people have to specific sandwiches.

10:00
15 min

The Real Sandwich: Schlotzky's History, Slogans, and the Spongy Truth

The hosts continue their Schlotzky's deep dive, tracing the brand’s founding in Austin by Don and Dolores Disman in 1971. They explore the brand’s 2004 Chapter 11 filing and the impact of private equity, drawing parallels to Jersey Mike’s decline. They dissect the evolution of slogans, from 'lots better' to 'no substitute skis', and express disdain for the current branding. The conversation also touches on the cultural significance of sandwiches as symbols of identity and community.

25:00
15 min

The Oyster Bar, the Office Depot, and the Cocaine Caper

The hosts shift gears to discuss LA’s food scene, particularly L&E Oyster Bar and Found Oyster, praising their small, focused menus and the life hack of dining at 5 p.m. to avoid crowds. They then pivot to a darkly comedic tangent about cocaine use, referencing the need for fentanyl strips and joking about using cocaine to stay awake for dinner at 7:45 p.m. The segment blends humor with a subtle commentary on substance use and the pressures of modern life.

40:00
15 min

The Supreme Court’s Conversion Therapy Decision: A Free Speech Disaster

This isn't about regulating speech. This is about regulating medical conduct. The states routinely regulate what treatments are allowed. This law was about protecting patients.

Highlight
55:00
15 min

Florida’s Incest Ban and Texas’s HUB Program: The Hypocrisy of 'Family Values'

They're saying this is DEI. They're saying these people earn these contracts fair and square not because of DEI, but because this program erased the exclusion.

Highlight
High-Impact Quotes
This isn't about regulating speech. This is about regulating medical conduct. The states routinely regulate what treatments are allowed. This law was about protecting patients.
Erin Gibson61:58
Viral: 92.0
I'm not even, I'm not over-exaggerating that these businesses dried up overnight. The Root spoke to Cortenia Williams who went through a rigorous system of certifications... She did the work. She was awarded these contracts and she did the job. And now she's kicked out of the system because she's a black woman.
Brian Safi53:36
Viral: 90.0
They're saying this is DEI. They're saying these people earn these contracts fair and square not because of DEI, but because this program erased the exclusion.
Brian Safi54:36
Viral: 88.0
Speakers

Hosts

Brian SafiErin Gibson
Topics Discussed
conversion therapy95%supreme court decisions90%lgbtq+ rights88%political hypocrisy85%dei and equity83%state legislation80%food culture78%media and satire70%
People & Brands

schlotzky's

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28xNeutral

supreme court

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15xNegative

florida

other

12xNegative

l&e oyster bar

brand

12xPositive

texas

other

10xNegative

colorado

other

8xNeutral

quince

brand

6xPositive

kelly hancock

person

6xNegative

benny johnson

person

6xNegative

project hail mary

media

6xPositive

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