FenBen Cancer Study RETRACTED By Publisher w/ Dr. Harvey Risch & Pseudoscience Expert Massimo Pigliucci + Naomi Wolf on Bizarre Geoengineered Cloud Formations – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 604

Ask Dr. Drew1h 22mApril 4, 2026

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In this episode of Ask Dr. Drew, host Dr. Drew Pinsky delves into a range of urgent and controversial topics, beginning with a discussion on the retraction of the FenBen cancer study by its publisher, which prompted a deep dive into the scientific validity of repurposed drugs like ivermectin and fibendazole. Dr. Harvey Risch, a Yale epidemiologist and co-author of a recent survey by The Wellness Company, presents preliminary data suggesting that a combination of ivermectin and fibendazole may lead to cancer regression in a significant portion of patients, though he emphasizes this is not definitive proof and calls for rigorous randomized trials. The episode then shifts to a philosophical and scientific exploration of pseudoscience with Massimo Pigliucci, an evolutionary biologist and stoic philosopher, who outlines how to distinguish credible science from pseudoscience through track record, peer consensus, and methodological rigor, warning that cognitive biases and ideological entrenchment now undermine public trust in science. Naomi Wolf joins to discuss the politicization of public spaces, particularly in New York City, where all-male prayer gatherings in Washington Square Park raise civil rights concerns under Title VII and the Civil Rights Act, not just constitutional separation of church and state. She also raises alarm about geoengineering, citing evidence of solar radiation management and cloud brightening experiments in the U.S. and Canada, which she argues pose health and psychological risks. The episode concludes with a powerful call to action on the need for character, critical thinking, and truth-seeking in a world increasingly defined by mass formation and belief-driven ideology.

Key Takeaways
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Preliminary survey data from The Wellness Company suggests 83-84% of cancer patients using ivermectin and fibendazole reported cancer regression or stabilization, but this is not proof—rigorous trials are urgently needed.

2

Massimo Pigliucci emphasizes that the best way to spot pseudoscience is not by individual claims, but by evaluating a person’s track record, peer consensus, and methodological transparency.

3

Naomi Wolf argues that all-male prayer gatherings in public parks violate the 1964 Civil Rights Act and Title IX by creating gender-based access discrimination, not just a church-state issue.

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Geoengineering practices like marine cloud brightening and sulfur dioxide spraying are already underway in the U.S. and Canada, with potential health and psychological harms from particulate exposure and sky alteration.

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Cognitive biases and ideological identity now make people resistant to evidence, turning belief systems into tribal identities—requiring a renewed focus on character and critical thinking.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

Opening: Public Prayer, Gender Exclusion, and Civil Rights

If I, as a Brooklynite, were to walk into the middle of those men in that public park... would I be allowed to use that space? And if I'm not allowed to use it, if they don't part to let me in... that is violating the 1964 Civil Rights Act because I'm not equal.

Highlight
2:10
3 min

Geoengineering and Sky Manipulation: A Hidden Threat

When there's a government shutdown, the skies are really clear. That's when you know geoengineering is happening. It's just very dangerous for a lot of reasons.

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5:30
5 min

Pseudoscience vs. Science: How to Tell the Difference

People are not good at assessing their cognitive faculties... We suffer from a number of well-documented cognitive biases which translate into logical fallacies.

Highlight
10:00
8 min

The FenBen Cancer Study Retraction and the Case for Repurposed Drugs

We're not replacing chemotherapy. We're adding to all of that, and so there should be no conflict of interest for somebody saying not to do it.

Highlight
18:00
7 min

The Psychology of Mass Formation and Belief Systems

Dr. Drew explores the concept of mass formation, where 20% of people become true believers in a shared delusion, citing the pandemic as a prime example, and warns that this phenomenon is now re-emerging around geopolitical and ideological narratives.

High-Impact Quotes
People are not good at assessing their cognitive faculties... We suffer from a number of well-documented cognitive biases which translate into logical fallacies.
Massimo Pigliucci57:00
Viral: 88.0
If I, as a Brooklynite, were to walk into the middle of those men in that public park... would I be allowed to use that space? And if I'm not allowed to use it, if they don't part to let me in... that is violating the 1964 Civil Rights Act because I'm not equal.
Naomi Wolf9:00
Viral: 85.0
We have to face the fact that there are cultures that are literally incompatible with one another.
Naomi Wolf14:29
Viral: 82.0
Speakers

Host

Dr. Drew Pinsky

Guests

Naomi WolfMassimo PigliucciDr. Harvey Risch
Topics Discussed
Cancer Treatment and Drug Repurposing95%Pseudoscience and Scientific Literacy90%Public Space and Gender Equality88%Geoengineering and Atmospheric Manipulation85%Cognitive Biases and Mass Formation82%12-Step Recovery and Addiction Treatment78%Cultural Incompatibility and Immigration75%Character and Virtue Ethics70%
People & Brands

Dr. Drew

person

15xPositive

Naomi Wolf

person

12xPositive

Ivermectin

product

11xNeutral

Massimo Pigliucci

person

10xPositive

Dr. Harvey Risch

person

8xPositive

Geoengineering

other

8xNegative

Fibendazole

product

7xNeutral

The Wellness Company

organization

6xPositive

Washington Square Park

place

5xNegative

12-Step Program

other

5xPositive

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