Go to Hell!!!

A man who murdered six people and terrorized New York City in the 1970s is now claiming to have found salvation in prison, preaching Christianity to inmates and asserting he’s 'already free' through Jesus. The hosts of Armstrong & Getty On Demand unpack the surreal transformation of David Berkowitz—once the 'Son of Sam,' now an elder ministering to fellow prisoners—while grappling with the moral and philosophical implications: can someone who committed such atrocities truly repent, and does that redemption make them a net positive for society? The conversation pivots from the chilling history of the Son of Sam killings to a surprisingly warm debate on forgiveness, free will, and the possibility of radical personal change, even in the most unforgivable cases. They contrast Berkowitz’s story with the biblical tale of Saul of Tarsus, now Paul, to explore whether light can truly penetrate even the deepest darkness. The episode also takes a sharp turn into absurdity with a lighthearted debate over Pop-Tart flavors—blueberry, apple cinnamon, and chocolate—highlighting the hosts’ signature blend of dark humor and human insight. Amid the grim subject matter, the discussion remains grounded in empathy, questioning whether society should ever stop believing in second chances, even for the most monstrous figures.