The Independent Revolution
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The United States is at a political inflection point, and Paul Rykoff—founder of Independent Veterans of America and host of the podcast 'Independent Americans'—argues that the solution lies not in doubling down on the two-party system, but in empowering a new generation of independent leaders. Drawing from his own military service and decades of advocacy, Rykoff reveals how veterans, often disenchanted with partisan politics, are stepping forward as nonpartisan candidates who embody integrity, experience, and patriotism. He highlights rising stars like Seth Bodnar (Montana Senate), Dan Osborne (Nebraska), and General Sarah Zabo (Idaho), who are proving that independents can raise money, win primaries, and shift the balance of power—especially in states with open primaries like California and Utah. The episode makes a bold case: the future of American democracy isn’t in the hands of Democrats or Republicans, but in the hands of those who refuse to choose sides. Rykoff and host Andrew Yang envision a movement where celebrities like Steve Kerr, Charles Barkley, or even Mark Cuban could run as independents, not as gimmicks, but as serious, credible alternatives. They warn that both major parties have failed—Democrats by refusing to hold a 2024 primary and Republicans by enabling extremism—and that only a truly independent, voter-driven movement can restore faith in governance.
Veterans are the backbone of American democracy and should be the vanguard of an independent political movement.
Independent candidates like Seth Bodnar and Dan Osborne are proving that nonpartisan candidates can raise money, win primaries, and shift Senate dynamics.
Open primaries and top-two systems (like California’s jungle primary) are critical infrastructure for independent candidates to succeed.
Celebrities like Steve Kerr, Charles Barkley, and Mark Cuban could be game-changers if they run as independents—bringing credibility, media reach, and public trust.
Both major parties have failed: Democrats by not holding a 2024 primary, Republicans by enabling extremism and enabling Trump’s agenda.
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The Fire of Disillusionment
The episode opens with a dramatic teaser about the new Paramount series 'Dutton Ranch,' symbolizing a fresh start after destruction. This sets the tone for the central theme: America is in crisis, and people are ready for a new beginning beyond the old political order.
Paul Rykoff: Captain America of the Independent Movement
“If America is a religion, veterans are its clergy. They're the samurai. They're the keepers of the flame.”
The Avengers of Democracy
“I'm trying to assemble the Avengers. I'm trying to bring together you and people of all different political and geographic backgrounds.”
Seth Bodnar: The Proof of Concept
“He raised more money than the Republicans and Democrats combined. It's a state with a very, very enormous independent streak.”
The Market for Independence
Rykoff argues that the political market is shifting. Voters are tired of extremism and want centrists. He cites data showing 49% of Americans identify as independent, and that independents can win—especially when they’re not labeled as Democrats or Republicans.
“The Democrats are not going to save you. They haven't stopped Trump on the Iran war. They haven't stopped ICE. They haven't stopped all the crazy shit he wants to do culturally.”
“if America is a religion, veterans are the clergy. They're the samurai. They're the keepers of the flame.”
“tomorrow The Rock decides he's running for president as an independent, the entire landscape changes.”
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Paul Rykoff
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Andrew Yang
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Seth Bodnar
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Dan Osborne
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Steve Kerr
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Mark Cuban
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General Sarah Zabo
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John Tester
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Matthew McConaughey
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Charles Barkley
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