This Supreme Court justice issues a warning about Progressivism
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This episode of America Out Loud Podcast Network, aired on May 8, 2026, centers on a powerful warning from Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas about the dangers of progressivism to America's foundational principles. Host Malcolm Out Loud uses the National Day of Prayer as a thematic anchor to explore the historical continuity of religious expression in American public life, citing presidential proclamations from Washington to Truman and the founding era’s reliance on prayer and moral reflection. He contrasts this with the modern exclusion of prayer from public schools and the DOJ’s current investigations into religious expression in education, suggesting these actions stem from a broader cultural shift. The core of the episode is a deep dive into Thomas’s April speech at the University of Texas, where he argued that the Declaration of Independence is not a relic but a living moral proposition rooted in unalienable rights from God. He warned that progressivism—rooted in Woodrow Wilson and John Dewey—undermines this foundation by treating rights as fluid and state-defined rather than fixed and inherent. This redefinition, Thomas argues, enables authoritarian overreach, as seen in 20th-century totalitarian regimes, and erodes the moral clarity needed for genuine progress. The episode concludes with a call to civic responsibility: Americans must actively defend the Declaration’s principles daily, not just in words but in action, or risk losing the very foundation of liberty.
The Declaration of Independence is not a historical artifact but a living moral standard that demands commitment, not just agreement.
Progressivism, as defined by Wilson and Dewey, redefines rights as fluid and state-dependent, undermining the fixed, God-given rights central to American founding principles.
The removal of religious education and prayer from public schools has eroded a shared moral framework, making societal consensus harder to achieve.
When rights are defined by government, they become contingent and unstable—subject to political fashion rather than enduring truth.
The erosion of foundational principles happens gradually through language, assumptions, and convenience, not dramatic events.
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The Historical Roots of the National Day of Prayer
“Jefferson's wall of separation between church and state was a wall that kept the state out of the church, not a wall that would keep the church out of the public square.”
Justice Clarence Thomas on the Enduring Truth of the Declaration
“The Declaration is not an obstacle to progress as progressives would tell us it is. Instead, it is the foundation of progress.”
The Perils of Progressivism and the Erosion of Rights
“If rights are no longer inherited or inherent, but instead constructed by government, they become contingent on those who interpret and enforce them.”
A Call to Civic Responsibility and Daily Defense of the Declaration
“The endurance of the principles of 76 is not guaranteed. They must be understood. They must be lived. They must be defended.”
“The endurance of the principles of 76 is not guaranteed. They must be understood. They must be lived. They must be defended.”
“Jefferson's wall of separation between church and state was a wall that kept the state out of the church, not a wall that would keep the church out of the public square.”
“If rights are no longer inherited or inherent, but instead constructed by government, they become contingent on those who interpret and enforce them.”
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Malcolm Out Loud
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Thomas Jefferson
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Woodrow Wilson
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John Dewey
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James Madison
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