Michaela Coel Stars in 'The Christophers'

All Of It24mApril 10, 2026

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In this episode of All of It, host Alison Stewart interviews actor Michaela Coel about her dual roles in two new films: The Christophers and Mother Mary. Coel discusses her performance as Laurie, a reclusive painter hired to forge the unfinished works of a disgraced artist, Julian Sklar, played by Ian McKellen. The film, directed by Steven Soderbergh, is a psychological two-hander that explores themes of art, authorship, loneliness, and moral ambiguity. Coel reflects on the script’s surprising narrative arc, her process of embodying a character shaped by silence and introspection, and the complex power dynamics between Laurie and Julian. She also contrasts this with her role in Mother Mary, where her character, a high-profile fashion designer, masks inner emptiness behind public success. The conversation delves into how art is created, who owns it, and how audiences shape meaning—questions that resonate throughout both films. Coel’s nuanced performance and deep engagement with the material underscore the emotional and philosophical weight of her roles.

Key Takeaways
1

Art is co-created by creators, audiences, and the context in which it’s received—no single authorship exists.

2

Silence and restraint can be powerful tools in performance, especially when portraying someone who observes more than they reveal.

3

Loneliness often coexists with social presence; being surrounded by people doesn’t prevent isolation.

4

A script’s emotional surprise and unpredictability are key to captivating an actor and audience alike.

5

The most compelling characters often emerge from contradiction—brilliant yet cruel, damaged yet insightful.

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Chapters
0:00
0 min

Introduction to the Episode

Host Alison Stewart introduces the episode, highlighting upcoming guests including Sean Hayes, Nick Offerman, and the focus on film, particularly Michaela Coel’s new roles in The Christophers and Mother Mary.

0:29
2 min

Introducing The Christophers and Mother Mary

Stewart outlines the plot of The Christophers, where Coel plays Laurie, a painter hired to forge the works of a dying artist, Julian Sklar. She also previews Mother Mary, a film about a successful designer struggling with creative emptiness.

2:00
3 min

The Power of Surprise in Scripts

I need to be surprised. I need to get to the end and look back and realize that I thought I was going in one direction, but the writer has spun me around and I've ended up in a destination I couldn't have possibly imagined being in.

Highlight
5:00
4 min

Laurie’s Loneliness and Artistic Identity

She's lonely. She's dealing with customers all the time. She's dealing with phone calls all the time. She's dealing with housemates. She probably could hang out with them... but she's very cerebral. She's very introspective.

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9:00
5 min

The Moral Ambiguity of Forgery

They picked me because they feel my hatred and resentment is strong enough for me to bypass any sense of morals and join them on a very selfish journey.

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High-Impact Quotes
When an idea is finished and goes out into the world, it is do the audience, do the people who receive that art continue to shape that art? And actually, are we all the authors and creators of art.
Michaela Coel24:20
Viral: 90.0
I need to be surprised. I need to get to the end and look back and realize that I thought I was going in one direction, but the writer has spun me around and I've ended up in a destination I couldn't have possibly imagined being in.
Michaela Coel2:17
Viral: 85.0
They picked me because they feel my hatred and resentment is strong enough for me to bypass any sense of morals and join them on a very selfish journey.
Michaela Coel9:37
Viral: 82.0
Speakers

Host

Alison Stewart

Guest

Michaela Coel
Topics Discussed
Art and Authorship90%The Role of the Audience in Art88%Loneliness and Isolation85%Moral Ambiguity in Creativity80%Creative Identity and Self-Worth78%Two-Hander Performances75%Psychological Depth in Dialogue70%Generational Conflict65%
People & Brands

Michaela Coel

person

45xPositive

The Christophers

media

28xPositive

Ian McKellen

person

18xPositive

Alison Stewart

person

15xPositive

Mother Mary

media

12xPositive

Ed Solomon

person

10xPositive

Steven Soderbergh

person

8xPositive

Jessica Gunning

person

5xPositive

James Corden

person

4xNeutral

Maggie Smith

person

3xPositive

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