Josh Shapiro on Trump, Iran War Chaos, Israel's Failure, the Economy, and 2028 Race

Governor Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania joins All-In to discuss his record-setting popularity and pragmatic governance in a deeply divided political landscape. He details Pennsylvania's pro-growth economic model—cutting taxes seven times, slashing permitting timelines with a 'money-back guarantee,' and creating over 40 million permits with only five refunds—positioning the state as the only growing economy in the Northeast. Shapiro contrasts this with the dysfunction in California and New York, attributing it to bureaucratic inertia and lack of urgency. He defends his anti-fraud stance, highlighting Pennsylvania’s top ranking in Medicaid prosecutions, and criticizes wealth taxes and Trump’s tax cuts for the wealthy, arguing they worsen inequality. Shapiro reflects on the Democratic Party’s 2024 losses, advocating for internal debate and a 'big tent' approach, while rejecting purity tests. He frames the 2026 midterms as a referendum on Trump’s chaos—tariffs, war with Iran, and corruption—and champions a Democratic alternative centered on education, safety, economic opportunity, and freedom. On foreign policy, Shapiro offers a nuanced critique of Netanyahu’s leadership and the war in Iran, calling it a 'war of choice' with no clear objectives, while sharply condemning anti-Semitism and insisting on separating criticism of Israeli policy from attacks on Jewish people. He emphasizes the need for checks and balances, integrity in office, and a return to honorable governance.