Hour 5: Do OSU fans care if Michigan wins the NCAA Tournament? + Which sports team do you hate the most?
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The episode explores the complex emotions of Ohio State fans toward Michigan's success in college basketball, particularly as Michigan advances to the National Championship game. Hosts Nick Wilson and Jonathan Peterlin debate whether Ohio State fans should care about Michigan winning the tournament, given the deep-rooted rivalry and the perceived lack of investment in Ohio State's basketball program. They argue that while football dominates the fanbase, the lack of passion for basketball—especially when Michigan excels—reveals a deeper identity issue: many fans may only be true 'Ohio State football fans' rather than full athletics supporters. The conversation shifts to personal sports hatreds, with callers and hosts expressing visceral disdain for Michigan, the Cubs (especially due to their 2016 World Series win), and even specific figures like Gino Auriemma and Michael B. Martinez. The hosts reflect on how team loyalty is often shaped by personal history, regional identity, and emotional trauma, with some admitting they can't root for certain teams even if they're objectively good. The segment ends with a lighthearted but passionate discussion about bracket picks, loyalty, and the absurdity of hating entire teams, dogs, and cats.
Ohio State fans' indifference to Michigan's basketball success may reflect a deeper identity as football-only fans, not true athletics supporters.
Hate for rival teams like Michigan and the Cubs is often emotional and visceral, not logical, rooted in history, identity, and personal trauma.
The 2016 Cubs World Series win remains a polarizing moment that turned many fans into lifelong haters, even if the team wasn't a dynasty.
Personal loyalty to teams can be shaped by family, geography, and early memories—like growing up in Chicago as a Cubs fan on the South Side.
Some fans admit to rooting for opponents' failure even when they predict that opponent will win, revealing the emotional complexity of fandom.
…and 2 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Ohio State vs. Michigan: Does Basketball Matter?
“If you're an Ohio State athletics fan, this should bother you in a great way. I don't care if you... shouldn't have to. But this is basketball. This isn't a tiny thing.”
The Emotional Weight of Rivalry
“The 2016 series just changed all of it. There's so many people that used to look at the Cubs and be happy and now it just brings some sadness and that makes me sad.”
Hating Teams, Dogs, and Cats
“I hate their dogs. I hate their cats. I mean, I don't want them to win anything ever. Would you ever put him as your winner in a bracket? Hell yeah, you did, Denise. That's a real fan right there.”
Bracket Loyalty vs. Emotional Hate
The hosts debate the contradiction of picking Michigan to win a bracket while rooting against them. Jake shares his internal conflict, admitting he picked Michigan in his bracket but still wants them to lose. The discussion highlights the emotional complexity of fandom.
The Cubs, the Warriors, and the Weight of History
“I think it's still the Cubs and Michael Bleepin Martinez. Yeah, it changed a lot for a lot of people because the amount of people I've had tell me that they used to like the Cubs used to be one of their favorites and then the 2016 series just changed all of it.”
“The 2016 series just changed all of it. There's so many people that used to look at the Cubs and be happy and now it just brings some sadness and that makes me sad.”
“I hate their dogs. I hate their cats. I mean, I don't want them to win anything ever. Would you ever put him as your winner in a bracket? Hell yeah, you did, Denise. That's a real fan right there.”
“I think it's still the Cubs and Michael Bleepin Martinez. Yeah, it changed a lot for a lot of people because the amount of people I've had tell me that they used to like the Cubs used to be one of their favorites and then the 2016 series just changed all of it.”
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