Bridge of Lies: A Bonus Conversation with Brad Mielke

20/2022mApril 22, 2026

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This final bonus episode of ABC's 'Bridge of Lies' podcast features host Brad Mielke in conversation with Juju Chang, co-anchor of ABC's Nightline and host of the true crime series. The discussion reflects on the emotional and investigative depth of the six-part series, which centers on the 2016 disappearance of 19-year-old Sarah Stern from Neptune City, New Jersey. Chang shares how the storytelling process involved uncovering intimate details of Sarah’s life through old Google Hangouts, Tumblr posts, and interviews with friends and investigators. A particularly powerful moment comes from an unedited sting operation tape where a suspect confesses in real time, including a chilling detail about a dog witnessing the crime. The episode also reveals unexpected interruptions during the sting—such as a stranger knocking on the car window—adding raw, real-time tension. Chang reflects on the unique challenges and rewards of podcasting, emphasizing the power of audio storytelling to build vivid mental imagery and emotional resonance. She also discusses her broader fascination with true crime as a lens for exploring psychology, justice, and societal patterns, citing landmark cases like the Menendez brothers, Pamela Smart, and the Zodiac Killer as cultural touchstones. The episode closes with a preview of the next series, 'Blood and Water,' set to premiere April 28th.

Key Takeaways
1

True crime podcasts like 'Bridge of Lies' use intimate audio archives (e.g., Google Hangouts, old tweets) to humanize victims and reconstruct lives lost.

2

The unedited confession tape from the sting operation—featuring real-time emotional breakdowns and unexpected interruptions—reveals the raw, high-stakes nature of investigative journalism.

3

Podcasting allows for deeper, more immersive storytelling than traditional TV, relying on sound design and pacing to build suspense and empathy.

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True crime appeals to audiences not just for mystery, but as a psychological tool for recognizing red flags and protecting oneself in relationships.

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The story of Sarah Stern highlights how digital footprints from early internet culture can become crucial investigative evidence decades later.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

Introduction and Series Wrap-Up

Brad Mielke introduces the final bonus episode of 'Bridge of Lies,' teasing the upcoming series 'Blood and Water' and setting the stage for a reflective conversation with host Juju Chang.

1:40
3 min

Juju Chang’s Personal Connection to Sarah Stern

She was a very talented artist and she had lots of friends. And just all of that mystery unfolding at the beginning of her life is really captivating.

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5:00
5 min

Reconstructing Sarah’s Life Through Digital Footprints

You hear her voice. She's 19. She's, you know, she's a kid as far as I'm concerned because I have children that age.

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10:00
5 min

The Hidden Confession Tape: A Breakthrough in the Investigation

I felt the same way you did. It stopped me in my tracks because there are a couple of things on that tape and that's what makes it such a great podcast, right?

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15:00
5 min

Unscripted Drama: The Stranger at the Car Window

I thought they were just checking up, but I didn't know how this works. I never had to go through something like that before.

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High-Impact Quotes
I felt the same way you did. It stopped me in my tracks because there are a couple of things on that tape and that's what makes it such a great podcast, right?
Juju Chang7:50
Viral: 90.0
It's called a defensive posture psychologically. They're watching to protect themselves because- Like I see these behaviors in my life.
Juju Chang20:12
Viral: 88.0
She was a very talented artist and she had lots of friends. And just all of that mystery unfolding at the beginning of her life is really captivating.
Juju Chang2:25
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Brad Mielke

Guest

Juju Chang
Topics Discussed
true crime storytelling95%digital legacy and online identity90%investigative journalism and evidence88%emotional impact of unsolved crimes87%psychological profiling and criminal behavior85%victim advocacy and memorialization82%podcast production and sound design80%gender and true crime fandom75%
People & Brands

Sarah Stern

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Juju Chang

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Brad Mielke

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Nightline

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8xPositive

Anthony Curry

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6xPositive

Google Hangouts

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5xPositive

ABC 20/20

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5xPositive

Neptune City

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4xNeutral

Tumblr

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3xPositive

Menendez brothers

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